Anyone else remember Flipnote Hatena on their Nintendo DSi? This week's guest Marisa Hetzler reminisces on the app that inspired her to pursue graphic design at FIT! Okay, well, she really spends most of the episode talking about the systemic issues in the graphic design industry, ways designers and brands must address social justice in their work, and how brands have been (un)successfully adapting to the COVID-19 pandemic. Marisa also gives an overview of what her graphic design track at FIT is like and the ways in which the curriculum and professors must change.