
HudZah (https://x.com/hud_zah) is someone exploring what it means, and what it takes, to operate at the edge of what is possible.In this conversation, we traced HudZah's path from Riyadh to Sri Lanka to Waterloo. A childhood split across three countries, shaped by rationed wifi, a single HP desktop, and the discovery that what you build on a computer can change the world around you. We talked about coding HTML on Notepad at ten, building soundboard apps that funded his own move to Canada, and what it's like to grow up in a place with no permits, no regulators, and no one telling you what you can't do.We explored the birth of esports through Half-Life mods, the machines behind the food we love, and a baklava maker in San Francisco whose irrational pursuit of quality you can taste in a single bite. We discussed how AI is collapsing the walls between disciplines, what that does to the identities we built around expertise, and why individual agency might be the only variable that matters now.This is a conversation about curiosity, permission, and what happens when the cost of crossing boundaries drops to zero.The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.—Timestamps00:00:00 Introduction00:03:38 Growing Up in Riyadh00:05:59 Saudi Shawarma and Broasted Chicken00:16:39 School in Saudi Arabia00:21:48 The HP Desktop and First Lines of Code00:25:55 YouTube Rabbit Holes and Gaming00:45:35 The Birth of Esports01:02:43 Valve's Employee Handbook01:05:12 Indie Games and Pure Pursuit01:06:05 Stardew Valley and ConcernedApe01:07:03 Moving to Sri Lanka01:10:34 SnapAPaper and Seeing Real Users01:13:47 Soundboards, Shopify, and Funding the Move01:27:38 Landing in Canada at 1701:36:25 AI and Collapsing the Distance Between Disciplines01:47:02 Identity, Expertise, and Permission Structures02:00:32 The Baklava Maker in San Francisco02:18:26 Machines Behind the Food We Love02:36:02 Frederic Tudor and the Ice King02:42:29 HudZah Flips the Interview02:49:05 Being a Parent—The Other Stuff Podcast: https://otherstuffpod.com YouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AWSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419fApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531Twitter: https://x.com/otherstuffpodInstagram: https://instagram.com/otherstuffpodinternetVin https://x.com/internetvinNewhttps://x.com/newsystems_https://instagram.com/newsystems_The music used during the introduction is "Sitting by the Lake in Zurich" by Sweatson Klank. Available on Bandcamp: https://sweatsonklank.bandcamp.com/track/sitting-by-the-lake-in-zurich
Mar 25
3 hr 4 min

Michelle Jia (pronounced GEE-ah) is a Lecturer at the Stanford d .school and has worked with Prof. Michael Barry in ethnographic research and teaching for almost ten years, with a special focus on complex systems problems like Ocean Conservancy and Education Policy.Today she’s based in Toronto, Canada where she’s helping to co-create a design school focused on systems thinking and design for the whole.The Other Stuff is hosted by internetVin, filmmaker and entrepreneur and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New.—Timestamps(00:00:00) Opening: Twitter, Social Media, and Finding Your People
(00:02:45) Soylent, Sweet Green, and San Francisco Food Culture
(00:06:15) Plazas and Korean Fried Chicken
(00:33:16) Needfinding: "Getting on the Roof"
(00:44:49) Evicted, Grizzly Man, and the Art of Deep Immersion
(00:55:59) Nausea, Existentialism, and Jumping Over the Abyss
(01:33:39) Toronto's Privacy Culture and the Challenge of Connection
(02:02:38) Secret Subculture Spaces in the City
(02:36:44) The Five P's of Toronto's Cultural Code
(02:48:22) Building IRID: A Design School for Complex Problems—The Other Stuff PodcastYouTube: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLK0osV4LBB6zLfDk-KDV9FtDg7y0bJ3AWSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1kImmU1R1DYTeM1AKZRWkx?si=2feeadb93ad4419fApple: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-stuff-with-internetvin/id1828762531Twitter: x.com/otherstuffpodInstagram: instagram.com/otherstuffpodinternetVin x.com/internetvinNewx.com/newsystems_instagram.com/newsystems_
Oct 8, 2025
2 hr 53 min
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