Erin interviews Trace Bell for a second time. This time, Trace shares about his spiritual awakening that led him to the work he does today. www.tracebelll.com Intro and closing are with Melanie Mack and Deli Macro-Nottage. Music for the podcast is by AKIYE. Cover art by Nat Iwata.

Deli and Erin interview Trace Bell, a spiritual teacher and son of Rob Bell, author and teacher. The discussion ranges from what is the church, Trace's background, consciousness, and setting boundaries as we built community.

Erin interviews Mark Ehrenstein, who identifies as a Christian and came out as gay in the 1970's. He shares his story and his advice for allies and LGBTQIA+ people as they navigate faith together.

Erin has a conversation with June about her life and church.

Deli, Erin, and Melanie reflect on the last podcasts and tell us about what's going on in their lives.