It was awesome to catch up with Lions U21 lock Cal Smid as we explore his journey so far, ours days at Bosch as well as look into tomorrow’s U21 Currie Cup final. We chat about what to expect and the significance of winning the final! 🦁🔥    All the best Calla - we behind you tomorrow 👊🏼

The Now And Then Pod. This one is for the young hustlers, the guys who are for the future. It is important to note that this one may not be limited to sportsmen 🏼 I must warn you, I don’t know what name this podcast fall under, how it’s going to look in the future but all I know, is that those are things I will learn along the way. Like all things in life. For my first chat I was lucky enough to have Western Province u21 hooker Jason Alexander on. It was a good catch up, but it was also phenomenal to hear his story so far and the teachings he has taken from it. Thanks for joining me brother! I look forward to seeing you in the Bok jumper.