Episode Description:Liz Glazer did everything right. Penn. Chicago Law. Law review. Big firm. Tenure. Every box her immigrant parents hoped she'd check — checked. And then she took a buyout and walked away to do stand-up comedy.This isn't a story about running away from something. It's about a psychological contract Liz made with herself: she had to prove she could succeed at the expected life before she had permission to pursue the wanted one. The stand-up set that nearly got her fired from Northwestern. The daydream she had the morning after her first performance — sitting on The Tonight Show couch, telling Jimmy Fallon it was nine years, not ten, because lawyers don't round up. That daydream came true in June 2025.This is a conversation about the difference between prestige and purpose. And what it costs to finally stop mistaking one for the other.What We Talk About:Why Liz needed to earn tenure before she could leave it — and how the same pattern showed up when she came out in collegeThe improv class that cracked something open, the stand-up set that triggered a psychiatric evaluation at Northwestern, and the faculty invitation that arrived in the same monthThe morning-after daydream that predicted The Tonight Show — down to the exact number of yearsLosing her first daughter, Leo Pearl, to stillbirth in 2021, and why she always makes space to say that name out loudHer practical theory on imposter syndrome, why aging in comedy doesn't scare her, and what her two-year-old is teaching her about beginner's mindAbout Liz Glazer:Liz Glazer is a stand-up comedian, author, and performer who spent fourteen years building a career in law before walking away from tenure to follow the one that actually fit. She's won the Boston Comedy Festival and the Ladies of Laughter competition. Her album A Very Particular Experience hit number one on the iTunes comedy charts. Her special Do You Know Who I'm Not is streaming free on YouTube. In June 2025, she made her debut on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon — exactly as she'd imagined it. She lives with her wife, Rabbi Karen Glazer Perlman, their daughter, and their cat.Connect with Liz: Website: dearlizglazer.com | Instagram: @lizglazer | YouTube: Do You Know Who I'm NotResources Mentioned:Do You Know Who I'm Not (YouTube special)A Very Particular Experience (comedy album)The Tonight Show with Jimmy FallonBoston Comedy FestivalLadies of LaughterFunny Women of a Certain Age (Carol Montgomery)March of DimesPockets of Light (stillbirth bereavement organization)Jared Freid (comedian)Judy Gold (comedian/mentor)Jim David (comedian)The Secret (Rhonda Byrne)Connect With Us: Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com/ | Instagram: @thenewmaturity | Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.com/ | Email: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

Guy Branum was eight years old, curled up on his family's farm in Yuba City reading about Greek goddesses while other boys played outside. A gay Jewish kid in rural California drawn to stories about divine beings who didn't quite fit the mold either.Today he's an Emmy-winning writer and producer for Hacks, a co-star in Bros, and one of the sharpest voices in queer comedy. In this conversation, Guy talks about the Secret Service showing up at his college apartment after a student newspaper column got misquoted—and how he's still on their list decades later. He shares why law school was the best wrong turn of his life, what working for Joan Rivers taught him about writing stand-up that actually feels real, and why his Instagram series "What the Old Gays Remember" keeps surprising him with what lands.This is about remembering you're a goddess, and why the strangest detours make the most interesting lives.What We Talk About:The Berkeley years, the Secret Service incident over a Chelsea Clinton column, and why he's still on their watch list thirty years laterComing out in law school in Minnesota and why the "wrong turn" of going to law school gave him the clearest possible view of what he didn't wantWriting stand-up for television—why it's one of the hardest things to do, and what working with Joan Rivers and Chelsea Handler taught him about perspective and specificityThe "What the Old Gays Remember" Instagram series with Tori, and why the most obscure stories end up being the ones that blow upBe Fruitful: confronting what purpose looks like as a gay man who won't participate in evolution, and why his best friend's note about getting personal changed the entire showAbout Guy Branum:Guy Branum is an Emmy-winning comedy writer and producer, known for his work on Hacks, The Mindy Project, The Other Two, and Billy on the Street. He co-starred in the groundbreaking queer rom-com Bros and served as an on-set punch-up writer. He is the author of the memoir My Life as a Goddess and a working stand-up comedian who has written for Joan Rivers and Chelsea Handler. He is currently touring with his solo show Be Fruitful. He lives in Los Angeles.Connect with Guy:Website: Instagram: @guybranum TikTok: @guybranumcomedyResources Mentioned:My Life as a Goddess (memoir)Hacks (TV series)Bros (film)Be Fruitful (solo show / Netflix Is a Joke Festival)What the Old Gays Remember (Instagram series)Joan RiversChelsea HandlerCole Escola & Jeffrey Self / Jeffrey and Cole CasseroleRoxane Gay / Bad FeministThe Daily CalifornianLido and the Lycian Peasants (Greek mythology)Top ChefGreat British Bake OffConnect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

Justin Chapple's grandmother Barbara made meals out of practically nothing—doctoring instant ramen, turning eggs into something magical. She didn't give her recipes fancy names. She just cooked with what she had, and her family ate well.Years later, Justin would go to culinary school, work the line at fancy restaurants, and land a pinch-me job at Food & Wine magazine as culinary director at large and host of their James Beard-nominated Mad Genius Tips series. But somewhere along the way, he realized restaurant work felt hollow. What he was missing was exactly what his grandmother had—that direct line between making something and feeding the people you love.In this conversation, Justin talks about seven years at Starbucks before culinary school, how a chance encounter at a South Beach food festival launched his career in food media, and why he finally gave himself permission to sing show tunes in a professional kitchen. Decades later, he's still learning what his grandmother was teaching him all along.This is about finding the version of your craft that actually makes you happy, and why the best lessons often come from the people who never called themselves teachers.What We Talk About:Growing up in Stockton, California with limited resources and how grandmother Barbara's cooking taught him that abundance isn't about what's in the pantry—it's about what lands on the tableThe seven years at Starbucks, the detour through acting, and why working restaurant line kitchens ultimately left him not wanting to cook at all when he got homeHow a chance meeting at a South Beach food festival with Giada De Laurentiis's producer led directly to the Food & Wine job that changed his lifeThe evolution of Mad Genius Tips from food hacks to teaching—and why watching someone learn something new feels like passing something onWhy the restaurant industry has come a long way for queer cooks, and what it meant to finally work somewhere that let him be loud, funny, and himselfAbout Justin Chapple:Justin Chapple is the culinary director at large at Food & Wine magazine and the former host of their James Beard-nominated video series Mad Genius Tips. A graduate of the French Culinary Institute, he worked in restaurant kitchens before finding his calling in food media, where he's spent years making cooking feel less intimidating and a whole lot more fun. He is the author of Just Cook It. He lives in New York with his husband, Jason.Connect with Justin:Website: https://justinchapple.com Instagram: @justinchappleResources Mentioned:Just Cook It (cookbook)Mad Genius Tips (Food & Wine video series)Food & Wine MagazineFrench Culinary InstituteGiada De LaurentiisThe Two Fat Ladies (TV show)Jacques PépinJulia ChildMSG / Accent seasoningSur La Table (Solutab ratchet pepper mill)Choqette & Shuka, New York CityConnect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

The man who runs American fashion didn't set out to work in fashion at all. Steven Kolb is CEO of the Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA), the force behind New York Fashion Week. Before he was front row at runway shows, he was on the front lines of the HIV/AIDS crisis, raising millions for DIFFA when the West Village was ground zero.Twenty years later, at sixty-four, he's thriving in an industry that worships youth—growing CFDA from $3.5 million to $15 million annually and redefining what leadership in fashion looks like.In this conversation, Steven talks about why he almost retired at the end of 2025 and what changed his mind, how Julie Gilhart's flowers on his first day helped him survive an industry he knew nothing about, and why being visibly hard of hearing and perpetually disheveled turned out to be advantages. He shares what it feels like to sit in boardrooms with billionaires as a blue-collar kid from New Jersey—and why he's learned to stay exactly who he is.This is about staying when everyone expects you to step aside, service work that follows you across industries, and why experience deserves celebration.What We Talk About:Transitioning from sixteen years fighting the AIDS crisis at DIFFA to leading CFDA at forty-four with zero fashion backgroundAlmost retiring at sixty-four in an industry obsessed with youth, then choosing to stay and claiming his role as an oracleOvercoming natural shyness to attend dozens of events and fashion shows by learning to "segment" his presenceWhy LGBTQ+ representation matters more on the business side of fashion than the creative side, where gay designers are more visibleHow his blue-collar New Jersey roots keep him grounded when surrounded by people with private planesAbout Steven Kolb:Steven Kolb is CEO of the Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA), where he has served for twenty years. Under his leadership, CFDA has launched the CFDA/Vogue Fashion Fund, the Health Initiative addressing model safety, diversity programs including awards for Black and AAPI designers, and crisis response efforts including $5 million in pandemic relief through The Common Thread. Before CFDA, Steven spent sixteen years at Design Industries Foundation Fighting AIDS (DIFFA) during the height of the AIDS crisis. He studied communications and public administration, started his career at the American Cancer Society, and lives in New York with his husband and their dog.Connect with Steven:Instagram: @stevenkolbTikTok: @stevenkolbSubstack: https://substack.com/@stevenkolbnycCFDA: cfda.comResources Mentioned:Council of Fashion Designers of America (CFDA)Design Industries Foundation Fighting AIDS (DIFFA)CFDA/Vogue Fashion FundThe Common Thread (pandemic relief program)Fashion's Night OutDiane von FurstenbergThom BrowneJulie GilhartFallingwater (Frank Lloyd Wright)Sidney Sheldon's The Other Side of MidnightConnect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.comInstagram: @thenewmaturityNewsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

David Roussève has been HIV positive since 1992, nursed back from the brink of death by his husband Connor, and survived losing that same husband to suicide in 2021 after twenty-six years together. At sixty-five, he's creating his first full-length solo performance in over twenty years, navigating Grindr and OkCupid for the first time, and asking the hardest questions about what it means to fully embrace life when you've spent decades defying death.In this conversation, David shares how a hashtag thirst trap on Instagram became the title of his new show Becoming Daddy AF, why he'd never trade his sixty-five-year-old wisdom for his twenty-five-year-old dancing ability, and what happened when he tried to relearn choreography from thirty-five years ago. He talks about growing up with a grandmother who worked as a domestic, how Princeton showed him theater could create social change, and why depth matters more than tricks when you're redefining virtuosity for an aging body.This is about grief, love that endures beyond death, and discovering that roller coaster lives can still surprise you.What We Talk About:Being HIV positive since 1992 and the paradox of defying death while struggling to embrace lifeLosing his husband Connor to suicide in 2021 and how grief transformed his understanding of loveCreating Becoming Daddy AF at sixty-five, his first full-length solo in over twenty yearsNavigating dating apps (Grindr and OkCupid) for the first time after a twenty-six-year monogamous relationshipHow a hashtag thirst trap on Instagram became a show titleRedefining virtuosity for an older body: choosing depth over technical tricksWhy community engagement beyond dance audiences sustains his workAbout David Roussève:David is a Guggenheim Fellow, distinguished professor at UCLA, and the creative force behind David Roussève/REALITY, a company combining movement, words, and visual imagery into powerful storytelling since 1988. As a gay Black choreographer, writer, and filmmaker, his work addresses AIDS, racism, homophobia, love, and loss. His performances have been presented at venues including Brooklyn Academy of Music, Jacob's Pillow, and internationally. He lives in Los Angeles.Connect with David:Website: DavidRousseve.com Instagram: @DavidRousseve Facebook: David RoussèveResources Mentioned:Becoming Daddy AF (new solo performance)David Roussève/REALITY (dance company)Brooklyn Academy of MusicPrinceton UniversityACT UP (AIDS Coalition to Unleash Power)The Alley Theatre (Houston)Connect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.com Email: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

William Norwich went from washing dishes to working alongside Anna Wintour at Vogue. He was one of the first journalists publicly outed in America, survived the shame spirals of gay life in the 1970s, and learned the hard way that your job isn't your identity when the New York Daily News went on strike and his phone stopped ringing.In this conversation, William shares stories from Studio 54 to the hallways of Vogue, why he changed his name from Goldberg to Norwich, and what it means to have "no more f*cks to give" in your seventies. He talks about the brutal Publishers Weekly review that almost ended his writing career, the Fire Island moment that shaped decades of self-loathing, and why his doctor's reminder that "you're going to die someday" was actually the best health advice he ever received.This is about transformation, survival, and discovering that the lustfulness and freedom of older years might be life's greatest gift.What We Talk About:The Fire Island moment: "I wish you looked like that" and decades of self-loathingBeing publicly outed in Outweek magazine over the Malcolm Forbes coverageWorking with Anna Wintour and her exceptional management styleWhen the phone stopped ringing during the Daily News strikeGetting sober in 1996 and deciding "f*ck shame"Having no more f*cks to give at seventyWhy his doctor telling him "you're going to die someday" was liberatingAbout William Norwich:William Norwich is a writer, editor, and novelist whose career has spanned decades at Vogue, The New York Times, and Town & Country. He currently serves as commissioning editor for fashion and interior design at Phaidon Press. His novels include Learning to Drive and he has been a fixture in New York media since the Studio 54 era. He lives in New York City.Connect with William: Instagram: @WilliamNorwichResources Mentioned:Learning to Drive (novel by William Norwich)Own It by Diane von Furstenberg (Phaidon)Outweek magazinePublishers WeeklyThe Devil Wears PradaFiorucciStudio 54New York Daily NewsVogueConnect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

Fashion designer Peter Som went from dressing celebrities on red carpets to roasting carrots alone after the Met Gala. When his runway business closed in 2015, he found himself in a Chelsea movie theater at 10am on a Wednesday, wondering how he got there. The answer came in the form of noodles, his grandmother's secret recipe notebook, and a complete reimagining of what success could mean.In this conversation, Peter shares how cooking became his lifeline during crisis, why "have you eaten?" was never really about food, and what it means to become a beginner again in your 40s. His new cookbook Family Style is a meditation on chosen family, Chinese-American heritage, and the creative confidence that comes from trusting your instincts—whether you're designing clothes or roasting vegetables.What We Talk About:Finding his grandmother's hidden 20-year recipe collection and the creative life she lived in secretThe loneliness of closing a fashion business and those 10am movie theater momentsWhy the Met Gala carrots mattered more than the red carpet"Have you eaten?" as a love language in Chinese cultureHow latchkey kid afternoons shaped his creative confidenceKnowing he was gay in 5th grade and fashion as a world of freedomReinvention as expansion, not abandonmentWhy success got quieter as he got olderAbout Peter Som: Peter Som is a fashion designer, lifestyle expert, and author of Family Style: Recipes for Connection, Community & Togetherness. His eponymous fashion line dressed everyone from Michelle Obama to First Ladies of fashion, earning him accolades from Vogue and beyond. After his runway business closed, he returned to his roots in food, honoring his grandmother's legacy while building a new creative chapter. He lives in New York City.Connect with Peter: Website: PeterSom.com Instagram: @PeterSomBuy the Book: Family Style: Recipes for Connection, Community & Togetherness available wherever books are soldResources Mentioned:Family Style cookbook by Peter SomMet GalaChelsea Cinema (now closed)Connect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

Episode Description:There's a generation of queer people out here thriving — and nobody's talking about it. Until now.The New Maturity is back for Season 4. Real conversations about what it means to thrive, find purpose, and own every chapter of your life — out, proud, and on your own terms.This is what aging with pride sounds like.New episodes start dropping Wednesday, April 1st. Follow wherever you get your podcasts — and don't miss a thing.Connect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenewmaturity/ | @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

Michelle Maccarone is a 41-year-old New York City playwright, performer, and podcast host who found her creative voice by celebrating the wit and wisdom of mid-century women. Her latest play, "The Leopard and the Lynx," premiered at the New York Theatre Festival in January 2025.How her obsession with "Auntie Mame" led to discovering Pat Tanner's real-life story of bisexuality and lavender marriageWhy she believes people in the 1970s had more freedom to create their own identities than we give them credit forThe challenge of directing your own writing: "It's just too much, you get stuck in your own head"How perimenopause is teaching her not to recognize her own body anymoreWhy she's working on a one-woman show about Elsa Maxwell, the queer party planner who invented the scavenger huntHer philosophy: "Not everyone has to like you and that's okay"Instagram/Facebook: @vintageoldbiddy Podcast: "Vintage Old Biddy"Connect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.com Instagram: @thenewmaturity Newsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.

This week we welcome Dr. Joe Eviatar, who spent 30 years as a highly respected oculofacial plastic surgeon before experiencing a profound pandemic awakening. At 63, he traded his medical practice for life coaching, launching Best Face Forward Coaching to help clients—particularly gay men—embrace aging with radical self-acceptance.Episode Highlights:Joe's groundbreaking work with AIDS patients suffering from facial lipoatrophy in the 90sThe pandemic moment when he realized he felt like a "drug pusher"Why patients asking to look like celebrities became his breaking pointThe mirror technique: rewiring your brain for self-love in two minutes dailyUnique challenges gay men face aging without elder role modelsHis complete career pivot at 60—from doctor to life coaching certificationJoe’s six pillars of wellness and finding peace Discover how a doctor who helped people chase youth learned to champion authenticity, why perfectionism plagues the LGBTQ+ community, and how neuroplasticity can transform your relationship with your reflection.Connect With Dr. Joe:Website: https://www.bestfaceforwardcoaching.comConnect With Us:Website: https://www.thenewmaturity.comInstagram: @thenewmaturityNewsletter: https://thenewmaturity.substack.comEmail: [email protected] episodes drop every other Wednesday. Subscribe now so you never miss a conversation that might just change how you see growing older.