We are the poets who don't know anything, two lovers of language on a quest to read and discuss poems from week to week in casual conversation that counters the idea of poetry as intimidating, unapproachable, or reserved for the select few.

Yeats! The poets who don't know anything return to discuss "The Fascination of What's Difficult," acting, and perfectionism.

The Muttering Retreat Ep. 4: W.B. Yeats

In this third episode, we dive into a summertime discussion of The Emperor of Ice Cream by Wallace Stevens.

The Muttering Retreat Ep. 3: Wallace Stevens

In episode two we dive into a pair of Dickinson poems; join us on our visit to the mermaids in the basement.

The Muttering Retreat Ep. 2: Emily Dickinson

Listen in as we talk our way through poems from week to week, in a casual, welcoming conversation. First up: The Sun Rising, by John Donne!