The Music Show
The Music Show
ABC Australia
All kinds of music and all kinds of musicians in conversation with Andrew Ford.
Different versions of Daniel Avery and clipping's experimental approach to hip-hop
Daniel Avery has been filling dancefloors around the world for more than a decade, both as a dj and with his own critically acclaimed records. On his latest, Tremor, Avery has embraced his love of rock and shoegaze, blending driving guitars with his normal electronics. Not content with one set of songs, Avery completely remixed his own album, turning it back to the dancefloor with his Midnight Versions.   There aren’t many musicians who have been nominated for a Hugo - one of the biggest sci-fi awards - but the hip-hop group clipping have had that honour twice, a testament to the narratives that drive their songs. They’re an unusual group musically as well, drawing inspiration from experimental composers and techno music, as well as from their own genre. William Hutson and Jonathan Snipes share how theatre brought the group together, and the very surprising lengths they've gone to in order to get the sounds they want. Daniel Avery is on tour, including date at Rising, Vivid, and Dark Mofo. Details here. Clipping is on tour, including Dark Mofo. Details here. Music heard in this program: Title: Dodger Artist: clipping Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson Album: Dead Channel Sky Label: Sub Pop  Title: Haze (with Ellie) Artist: Daniel Avery Composer: Daniel Avery Album: Tremor Label: Domino Title: Until The Moon Starts Shaking Artist: Daniel Avery Composer: Daniel Avery Album: Tremor Label: Domino Title: Until The Moon Starts Shaking (Midnight Version) Artist: Daniel Avery Composer: Daniel Avery Album: Tremor (Midnight Versions) Label: Domino Title: Dominator Artist: clipping Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson Album: Dead Channel Sky Label: Sub Pop  Title: Bring The Noise Artist: Public Enemy Composer: Public Enemy Album: It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back Label: Def Jam Recordings Title: Get Up Artist: clipping Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson Album: CLPPNG Label: Sub Pop Title: Run For Your Life Artist: clipping Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson Album: There Existed An Addiction To Blood Label: Sub Pop  Title: Ask What Happened Artist: clipping Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson Album: Dead Channel Sky Label: Sub Pop  The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Isabella Tropiano
Jun 5
54 min
Cover Story: Jolene
Every great song gets covered. Sometimes beautifully, sometimes badly, and sometimes by people who clearly should have known better. Cover Story, returning for its third series, hunts down the best, the worst, and the downright strange versions of classic songs, and asks the question: why does this version give us goosebumps while that one makes our skin crawl? According to some Dolly Apocrypha, Dolly Parton wrote Jolene and I Will Always Love You on the same day: a lifetime's worth of goosebump production in a single day. And whilst I Will Always Love You is best known by its Whitney Houston cover, Jolene is Dolly's most covered song.  And the variety is stunning. Join Andy and his guests - Adelaide Cabaret Festival's Reuben Kaye and Gillian Cosgriff - to paint a picture of a beauty beyond compare.  Adelaide Cabaret Festival runs until 21 June Jolene – Dolly Parton Composed and performed by Dolly Parton Released as a single, January 1974 Versions heard in this episode: Olivia Newton John - Come On Over, 1976 Beyonce - COWBOY CARTER, 2024 Dami Im - Jolene (Acoustic) single, 2018 Nicola Zuraitis, Dan Pugach and his Big Band - single, 2025 Strawberry Switchblade - Strawberry Switchblade, 1985 Darcy Clay - Jesus I Was Evil (EP), 1997 Miley Cyrus - Attention (Live), 2022 and Reuben Kaye and Gillian Cosgriff - live in The Music Show studio, 2026 Next time on Cover Story: Carole King's Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?  Technical production by Isabella Tropiano and Angela Grant The show this week was made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country.
Jun 5
54 min
Miles Davis: a centenary
A portrait of the legendary trumpeter Miles Davis on his centenary. We hear how Miles not only changed music but also the lives of those he played with. We've pulled interviews from The Music Show's archives with former bandmates including pianists Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea, saxophonists Wayne Shorter and Gary Bartz, guitarist John McLaughlin, bassist Dave Holland as well as big fans of his music like Paul Grabowsky. We move from the Birth of the Cool to Kind of Blue, Nefertiti, Bitches Brew and, finally, to Aura. As a bonus, we'll also hear what it was like working with Miles Davis the actor. In the last ten years of his life he aspired to appear on screen— he only starred in one full-length film before his death in 1991, and that was Rolf de Heer's Dingo. More Information Archive interviews featured Chick Corea (2007) Dave Holland (2007) Wayne Shorter (2016) John McLaughlin (2009) Gunther Schuller (1998) Paul Grabowsky (2019) Herbie Hancock (2007) Rolf de Heer (2020) Gary Bartz (2016) Music played in this program Title: Joshua Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Victor Feldman Album: Seven Steps To Heaven Label: CBS BP233072 Title: Venus De Milo Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Gerry Mulligan Album: Birth Of The Cool Label: Capitol Records T-762 Title: Deception Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Miles Davis Album: Birth Of The Cool Label: Capitol Records T-762 Title: So What Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Miles Davis Album: Kind Of Blue Label: Coronet KLP893 Title: Blue In Green Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Miles Davis Album: Kind Of Blue Label: Coronet KLP893 Title: Nefertiti Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Wayne Shorter Album: Nefertiti Label: CBS SBP 2335 15 Title: E.S.P. Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter Album: E.S.P. Label: CBS SBP 233267   Title: Pharaoh's Dance Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Joe Zawinul Album: Bitches Brew Label: CBS S2BP-220056 Title: Concert on the Runway Artist: Miles Davis and Michel Legrand Composer: Miles Davis and Michel Legrand Album: Dingo: Selections From The Motion Picture Soundtrack Label: Warner Bros. Records ‎- 9 26438-2 Title: White Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Palle Mikkelborg Album: Aura  Label: CBS 463351 1 The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Harvey O'Sullivan, Emrys Cronin, Que Nguyen, Nathan Turnbull and Simon Branthwaite Library archivist Sabrina Lipovic
May 31
54 min
A tribute to Sonny Rollins, Mahalia Barnes sings The Rose, and Cass McCombs live in the studio
We pay tribute to Sonny Rollins, who died this week at the age of 95. Rollins played with many of the greats of jazz, but was himself something of loner. Driven by ideas of perfection, Rollins played into his 80s, but spent years away the music industry, including a famous three-year sabbatical where he played for no one other than himself on the Williamsburg Bridge in NYC. Andy spoke to Rollins in 2008, and we revisit that conversation here.  For some, performing a show taking on the work of Bette Midler could be a little intimidating; Janis Joplin even more so. Mahalia Barnes is doing both at once, performing songs from The Rose as part of the Adelaide Cabaret Festival. She shares what those greats mean to her and what she looks for when she covers a song.  Live in the Music Show studio, Cass McCombs performs songs from his latest album Interior Live Oak, and talks about his place in the folk tradition and his time writing folk songs for children Mahalia Barnes performs The Rose is on at the Adelaide Cabaret Festival on the 14th of June Cass McCombs is performing at the Sydney Opera House for Vivid on the 31st of May Music heard in this program: Title: The Rose Artist: Bette Midler Composer: Amanda McBroom Album: The Rose (The Original Soundtrack Recording) Label: Atlantic Title: The Bridge Artist: Sonny Rollins Composer: Sonny Rollins Album: The Bridge Label: RCA Title: Whose Side Are You On Artist: Bette Midler Composer: Charley Williams & Kenny Hopkins Album: The Rose (The Original Soundtrack Recording) Label: Atlantic Title: Stay With Me Artist: Lorraine Ellison Composer: George David Weiss & Jerry Ragovoy Album: Stay With Me Label: Warner Bros. - Seven Arts Records  Title: I'm On Fire Artist: Mahalia Barnes and the Soul Mates Composer: Bruce Springsteen Album: I'm On Fire single Label: Independent release Title: Priestess Artist: Cass McCombs Composer: Cass McCombs Album: Interior Live Oak Label: Domino Title: Missionary Bell Artist: Cass McCombs Composer: Cass McCombs Album: Interior Live Oak Label: Domino The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Harvey O'Sullivan, Angela Grant, and Brendan O'Neill
May 30
54 min
Hilary Geddes' Redleaf and Kae Tempest's Self Titled
Hilary Geddes is a guitarist of understated virtuosity, and a composer of music that takes jazz into a rolling, lush, environmental register. Her latest album Redleaf, with the Hilary Geddes Quartet, is a record of the sounds she's heard, the music she's created, and the relationship between the players over the past four years. Kae Tempest returns to The Music Show ahead of his appearance at Vivid Sydney. His latest album Self Titled is his most personal, threading the needle between fury and optimism with the wordy humanity he's known for. He talks to Ce about how the Self in Self Titled has evolved.  Tour dates for Hilary Geddes here Kae Tempest’s national tour which includes dates in Perth, Melbourne (Rising) Brisbane (Open Season) and Sydney (Vivid) starts June 4 Music heard in this program: Title: Hyperdistillation Artist: Kae Tempest Composer: Kae Tempest Album: Self Titled Label: Island Records Title: First (solo version) Artist: Hilary Geddes  Composer: Hilary Geddes Album: Live performance Title: First  Artist: Hilary Geddes Quartet Composer: Hilary Geddes Album: Redleaf Label: Earshift Music Title: Three Five Ten Artist: Hilary Geddes Quartet Composer: Hilary Geddes Album: Redleaf Label: Earshift Music Title: Prayers To Whisper Artist: Kae Tempest Composer: Kae Tempest Album: Self Titled Label: Island Records Title: Breathe Artist: Kae Tempest Composer: Kae Tempest Album: Self Titled Label: Island Records Title: Sunshine On Catford Artist: Kae Tempest Composer: Kae Tempest Album: Self Titled Label: Island Records Title: I Stand On The Line Artist: Kae Tempest Composer: Kae Tempest Album: Self Titled Label: Island Records Title: Blue In Green Artist: Miles Davis Composer: Miles Davis Album: Kind of Blue Label: Island Records The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Isabella Tropiano and Timothy Jenkins
May 24
54 min
Barry Conyngham's rarely performed classic & Mogwai and Tortoise both celebrate new music and big anniversaries
Barry Conyngham’s piece Ice Carving isn’t performed very often, and almost never in its intended configuration - a solo violinist surrounded by an audience, who are then surrounded by 4 string orchestras. It’s finally getting its proper form at The Ian Potter Centre in Melbourne and Barry takes us back to the inspiration, at The Imperial Palace in Tokyo. It's been 30 years since Mogwai released their debut single, Tuner/Lower, and the band have gone from one of the young teams of rock to one of post-rock's longest running groups. Stuart Braithwaite, the band's guitarist and occasional singer, looks back on the band's three decades. Tortoise, another central figure in post-rock, are also celebrating 30 years since one of their biggest albums, Millions Now Living Will Never Die. John McEntire explains how the band decides which drummer will play on a given track, why they're drawn to unusual time-signatures, and why it took 10 years for them to complete their latest record.   Ice Carving has three shows on May 29. Details here Tour dates for Mogwai, beginning on May 23 at Vivid in Sydney, are available here  Tour dates for Tortoise, beginning May 27 in Sydney, are available here Music heard in this program: Title: Mogwai Fear Satan Artist: Mogwai Composer: Mogwai Album: Young Team Label: Spunk Title: Ice Carving Artist: Sydney Symphony Orchestra & Wilfred Lehmann Composer: Barry Conyngham Album: Live performance Label: ABC Music Title: What Kind of Mix Is This Artist: Mogwai Composer: Mogwai Album: The Bad Fire Label: Rock Action Records Title: Yes! I Am A Long Way From Home Artist: Mogwai Composer: Mogwai Album: Young Team Label: Spunk Title: Oganesson Artist: Tortoise Composer: Tortoise Album: Touch Label: International Anthem Recording Company Title: Glass Museum Artist: Tortoise Composer: Tortoise Album: Millions Now Living Will Never Die Label: Thrill Jockey Title: After Rain Artist: Hilary Geddes Quartet Composer: Hilary Geddes Album: Redleaf Label: Earshift Music The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Isabella Tropiano
May 23
54 min
Folk fixtures: Judy Small's Swansongs, and the National Folk Festival at 60
Judy Small is a fixture of the Australian folk scene, a writer and performer of songs about politics and people. She joins Andy to recap the thirty-ish years since she was last on the show, including a career in family law and as a federal judge, and the process she's been undertaking of recording some of her last songs (Swansongs) and appearing at the 60th National Folk Festival. And Ce Benedict reports from the festival itself, where transcontinental dulcimer jams, children busking, and bardic reinterpretations of Smashmouth all contribute to one of Australia's most distinctive festival experiences.  Music heard in the show:  Title: Home Home Artist: Apolline Composer: Hickey, Luisa Album: Home Home Label: Independent Release Title: Stand Or Fall, Within These Walls (Yad Vashem) Artist: Judy Small Composer: Small, Judy Album: Swansongs Label: Independent Release Title: The White Bay Paper Seller Artist: Judy Small Composer: Small, Judy Album: Mothers, Daughters, Wives / Ladies and Gems Label: Independent Release Title: You Don't Speak For Me Artist: Judy Small Composer: Small, Judy Album: Judy Small - Best of the 80s Label: Independent Release Title: Encanto Artist: Maryam Rahmani Composer: Rahmani, Maryam Album: Kamand Label: Independent Release Label: Independent Release Title: Home Home Artist: Apolline Composer: Hickey, Luisa Album: Home Home The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Emrys Cronin and Timothy Jenkins
May 17
54 min
Xiu Xiu take on Eraserhead and Pinchgut Opera's first murder
Xiu Xiu has been a leading figure in American avant-pop for more than two decades: combining abrasive noise and extremely dark subject matter with a catchy pop sensibility. It’s perhaps no surprise then that they’ve been drawn to the work of David Lynch, releasing their version of the music of Twin Peaks, and now, appearing at Dark Mofo in Tasmania to present their take on Eraserhead. Jamie Stewart talks passion, performance, and Dolly Parton.  in 1707 Alessandro Scarlatti wrote an oratorio called il primo omicidio - The First Murder. It features Cain, Abel, their parents Adam and Eve, and (naturally) God and Satan providing a bit of sung commentary too. Ashlyn Tymms, Madison Nonoa, and Erin Helyard share Pinchgut Opera's approach, which uses a distinctly Australian setting. Pinchgut Opera are performing The First Murder at Roslyn Packer Theatre from May 23 Music heard in this program: Title: Jolene Artist: Xiu Xiu Composer: Dolly Parton Album: Xiu MF'n Xiu Label: Polyvinyl Record Company  Title: Common Loon Artist: Xiu Xiu Composer: Xiu XIu Album: 13" Frank Beltrame Italian Stiletto With Bison Horn Grips Label: Polyvinyl Record Company  Title: Il primo omicidio, Parte prima; 'La fraterna amica pace' Artist: Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin and René Jacobs Composer: Alessandro Scarlatti  Album: Scarlatti: Il primo omicidio Label: Harmonia Mundi Title: La Fraterna amica pace Artist: Erin Helyard, Ashlyn Tymms, Madison Nonoa Composer: Alessandro Scarlatti  Album: Live Performance Title: The White Bay paper seller Artist: Judy Small Composer: Judy Small Album: Ladies & Gems Label: Crafty Maid The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Emrys Cronin and Timothy Jenkins
May 16
54 min
The mystery and music of Connie Converse
American Singer-songwriter Connie Converse would be hard enough to pigeonhole had she not disappeared without a trace in 1974. She wrote folk songs, and art songs, and the story of her life and disappearance is a fascinating one. It's the subject of a biography called To Anyone Who Ever Asks: The Life, Music, and Mystery of Connie Converse by Howard Fishman, who joins Andy to tell the tale and listen to her wonderful and wonderfully strange songs.  Gia Margaret's new album is called Singing, fitting for her first return to vocal music after eight years of having lost her voice. As she tells Andy, adversity led her to finding creativity in instrumental writing, which she's now brought back to the voice for her latest release.  And we hear new music by tar virtuoso Hamed Sadeghi from his new album, Convergence.  Join us for The Music Show at Sydney Writers' Festival on 21 May with Ziggy Ramo, Leah Senior and Kate Fagan
May 10
54 min
Raven Chacon's Pulitzer Prize-winning Voiceless Mass and Cam Butler takes on the grand organ
Voiceless Mass, by Raven Chacon, can be performed in 'any space of worship with high ceilings and pipe organ' and plays with the amplifying power of a church's architecture, while commenting on the silencing of voices and languages that churches have been active in throughout their history. It won the composer the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2022 and is heading to the Rising Festival in Melbourne. Raven talks to Andy about the intersection of politics and music, his role as a mentor, and what he wants to add to John Cage's understanding of silence. The huge sound of the Melbourne Town Hall grand organ might seem like an unusual choice for the composer and guitarist Cam Butler, but for his latest album, he had a chance to take over the hall - and brought along a rock band and a string orchestra to complete the mix. Cam’s project is a cinematic album of guitar-organ-strings-rock maximalism, called World Forever and he shares how he approached this latest challenge, and how he gets the most from his normal instrument, the guitar. Cam Butler will be performing World Forever live at the Melbourne Town Hall on May 22.  Join us for The Music Show at Sydney Writers' Festival on 21 May with Ziggy Ramo, Leah Senior and Kate Fagan Music heard in this program: Title: Haunted Ruins Artist: Cam Butler Composer: Cam Butler Album: World Forever Label: Heavy Machinery Records Title: Voicless Mass Artist: Present Music Composer: Raven Chacon Album: Raven Chacon: Voiceless Mass Label: New World Records Title: Don't Cry (Your Father & Grandfather Are Good Artist: Himba Hymn Collective Composer: Himba Hymn Collective Album: Himba Hymn: Ghosts Of Namibia's Skeleton Coast Label: Sublime Frequencies Title: World Forever Artist: Cam Butler Composer: Cam Butler Album: World Forever Label: Heavy Machinery Records Title: Clear Infinity Artist: Cam Butler Composer: Cam Butler Album: World Forever Label: Heavy Machinery Records Title: Rotten Artist: Gia Margaret Composer: Gia Margaret Album: Singing Label: Jagjaguwar The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country Technical production by Isabella Tropiano
May 9
54 min
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