
Daniel Avery has been filling dancefloors around the world for more than a decade, both as a dj and with his own critically acclaimed records. On his latest, Tremor, Avery has embraced his love of rock and shoegaze, blending driving guitars with his normal electronics. Not content with one set of songs, Avery completely remixed his own album, turning it back to the dancefloor with his Midnight Versions.
There aren’t many musicians who have been nominated for a Hugo - one of the biggest sci-fi awards - but the hip-hop group clipping have had that honour twice, a testament to the narratives that drive their songs. They’re an unusual group musically as well, drawing inspiration from experimental composers and techno music, as well as from their own genre. William Hutson and Jonathan Snipes share how theatre brought the group together, and the very surprising lengths they've gone to in order to get the sounds they want.
Daniel Avery is on tour, including date at Rising, Vivid, and Dark Mofo. Details here.
Clipping is on tour, including Dark Mofo. Details here.
Music heard in this program:
Title: Dodger
Artist: clipping
Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson
Album: Dead Channel Sky
Label: Sub Pop
Title: Haze (with Ellie)
Artist: Daniel Avery
Composer: Daniel Avery
Album: Tremor
Label: Domino
Title: Until The Moon Starts Shaking
Artist: Daniel Avery
Composer: Daniel Avery
Album: Tremor
Label: Domino
Title: Until The Moon Starts Shaking (Midnight Version)
Artist: Daniel Avery
Composer: Daniel Avery
Album: Tremor (Midnight Versions)
Label: Domino
Title: Dominator
Artist: clipping
Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson
Album: Dead Channel Sky
Label: Sub Pop
Title: Bring The Noise
Artist: Public Enemy
Composer: Public Enemy
Album: It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Label: Def Jam Recordings
Title: Get Up
Artist: clipping
Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson
Album: CLPPNG
Label: Sub Pop
Title: Run For Your Life
Artist: clipping
Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson
Album: There Existed An Addiction To Blood
Label: Sub Pop
Title: Ask What Happened
Artist: clipping
Composer: Daveed Diggs, Jonathan Snipes, William Hutson
Album: Dead Channel Sky
Label: Sub Pop
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Isabella Tropiano
Jun 5
54 min

Every great song gets covered. Sometimes beautifully, sometimes badly, and sometimes by people who clearly should have known better.
Cover Story, returning for its third series, hunts down the best, the worst, and the downright strange versions of classic songs, and asks the question: why does this version give us goosebumps while that one makes our skin crawl?
According to some Dolly Apocrypha, Dolly Parton wrote Jolene and I Will Always Love You on the same day: a lifetime's worth of goosebump production in a single day. And whilst I Will Always Love You is best known by its Whitney Houston cover, Jolene is Dolly's most covered song.
And the variety is stunning. Join Andy and his guests - Adelaide Cabaret Festival's Reuben Kaye and Gillian Cosgriff - to paint a picture of a beauty beyond compare.
Adelaide Cabaret Festival runs until 21 June
Jolene – Dolly Parton
Composed and performed by Dolly Parton
Released as a single, January 1974
Versions heard in this episode:
Olivia Newton John - Come On Over, 1976
Beyonce - COWBOY CARTER, 2024
Dami Im - Jolene (Acoustic) single, 2018
Nicola Zuraitis, Dan Pugach and his Big Band - single, 2025
Strawberry Switchblade - Strawberry Switchblade, 1985
Darcy Clay - Jesus I Was Evil (EP), 1997
Miley Cyrus - Attention (Live), 2022
and
Reuben Kaye and Gillian Cosgriff - live in The Music Show studio, 2026
Next time on Cover Story: Carole King's Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?
Technical production by Isabella Tropiano and Angela Grant
The show this week was made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country.
Jun 5
54 min

A portrait of the legendary trumpeter Miles Davis on his centenary. We hear how Miles not only changed music but also the lives of those he played with. We've pulled interviews from The Music Show's archives with former bandmates including pianists Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea, saxophonists Wayne Shorter and Gary Bartz, guitarist John McLaughlin, bassist Dave Holland as well as big fans of his music like Paul Grabowsky. We move from the Birth of the Cool to Kind of Blue, Nefertiti, Bitches Brew and, finally, to Aura.
As a bonus, we'll also hear what it was like working with Miles Davis the actor. In the last ten years of his life he aspired to appear on screen— he only starred in one full-length film before his death in 1991, and that was Rolf de Heer's Dingo.
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Archive interviews featured
Chick Corea (2007)
Dave Holland (2007)
Wayne Shorter (2016)
John McLaughlin (2009)
Gunther Schuller (1998)
Paul Grabowsky (2019)
Herbie Hancock (2007)
Rolf de Heer (2020)
Gary Bartz (2016)
Music played in this program
Title: Joshua
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Victor Feldman
Album: Seven Steps To Heaven
Label: CBS BP233072
Title: Venus De Milo
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Gerry Mulligan
Album: Birth Of The Cool
Label: Capitol Records T-762
Title: Deception
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Miles Davis
Album: Birth Of The Cool
Label: Capitol Records T-762
Title: So What
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Miles Davis
Album: Kind Of Blue
Label: Coronet KLP893
Title: Blue In Green
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Miles Davis
Album: Kind Of Blue
Label: Coronet KLP893
Title: Nefertiti
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Wayne Shorter
Album: Nefertiti
Label: CBS SBP 2335 15
Title: E.S.P.
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Miles Davis, Wayne Shorter
Album: E.S.P.
Label: CBS SBP 233267
Title: Pharaoh's Dance
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Joe Zawinul
Album: Bitches Brew
Label: CBS S2BP-220056
Title: Concert on the Runway
Artist: Miles Davis and Michel Legrand
Composer: Miles Davis and Michel Legrand
Album: Dingo: Selections From The Motion Picture Soundtrack
Label: Warner Bros. Records - 9 26438-2
Title: White
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Palle Mikkelborg
Album: Aura
Label: CBS 463351 1
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Harvey O'Sullivan, Emrys Cronin, Que Nguyen, Nathan Turnbull and Simon Branthwaite
Library archivist Sabrina Lipovic
May 31
54 min

We pay tribute to Sonny Rollins, who died this week at the age of 95. Rollins played with many of the greats of jazz, but was himself something of loner. Driven by ideas of perfection, Rollins played into his 80s, but spent years away the music industry, including a famous three-year sabbatical where he played for no one other than himself on the Williamsburg Bridge in NYC. Andy spoke to Rollins in 2008, and we revisit that conversation here.
For some, performing a show taking on the work of Bette Midler could be a little intimidating; Janis Joplin even more so. Mahalia Barnes is doing both at once, performing songs from The Rose as part of the Adelaide Cabaret Festival. She shares what those greats mean to her and what she looks for when she covers a song.
Live in the Music Show studio, Cass McCombs performs songs from his latest album Interior Live Oak, and talks about his place in the folk tradition and his time writing folk songs for children
Mahalia Barnes performs The Rose is on at the Adelaide Cabaret Festival on the 14th of June
Cass McCombs is performing at the Sydney Opera House for Vivid on the 31st of May
Music heard in this program:
Title: The Rose
Artist: Bette Midler
Composer: Amanda McBroom
Album: The Rose (The Original Soundtrack Recording)
Label: Atlantic
Title: The Bridge
Artist: Sonny Rollins
Composer: Sonny Rollins
Album: The Bridge
Label: RCA
Title: Whose Side Are You On
Artist: Bette Midler
Composer: Charley Williams & Kenny Hopkins
Album: The Rose (The Original Soundtrack Recording)
Label: Atlantic
Title: Stay With Me
Artist: Lorraine Ellison
Composer: George David Weiss & Jerry Ragovoy
Album: Stay With Me
Label: Warner Bros. - Seven Arts Records
Title: I'm On Fire
Artist: Mahalia Barnes and the Soul Mates
Composer: Bruce Springsteen
Album: I'm On Fire single
Label: Independent release
Title: Priestess
Artist: Cass McCombs
Composer: Cass McCombs
Album: Interior Live Oak
Label: Domino
Title: Missionary Bell
Artist: Cass McCombs
Composer: Cass McCombs
Album: Interior Live Oak
Label: Domino
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Harvey O'Sullivan, Angela Grant, and Brendan O'Neill
May 30
54 min

Hilary Geddes is a guitarist of understated virtuosity, and a composer of music that takes jazz into a rolling, lush, environmental register. Her latest album Redleaf, with the Hilary Geddes Quartet, is a record of the sounds she's heard, the music she's created, and the relationship between the players over the past four years.
Kae Tempest returns to The Music Show ahead of his appearance at Vivid Sydney. His latest album Self Titled is his most personal, threading the needle between fury and optimism with the wordy humanity he's known for. He talks to Ce about how the Self in Self Titled has evolved.
Tour dates for Hilary Geddes here
Kae Tempest’s national tour which includes dates in Perth, Melbourne (Rising) Brisbane (Open Season) and Sydney (Vivid) starts June 4
Music heard in this program:
Title: Hyperdistillation
Artist: Kae Tempest
Composer: Kae Tempest
Album: Self Titled
Label: Island Records
Title: First (solo version)
Artist: Hilary Geddes
Composer: Hilary Geddes
Album: Live performance
Title: First
Artist: Hilary Geddes Quartet
Composer: Hilary Geddes
Album: Redleaf
Label: Earshift Music
Title: Three Five Ten
Artist: Hilary Geddes Quartet
Composer: Hilary Geddes
Album: Redleaf
Label: Earshift Music
Title: Prayers To Whisper
Artist: Kae Tempest
Composer: Kae Tempest
Album: Self Titled
Label: Island Records
Title: Breathe
Artist: Kae Tempest
Composer: Kae Tempest
Album: Self Titled
Label: Island Records
Title: Sunshine On Catford
Artist: Kae Tempest
Composer: Kae Tempest
Album: Self Titled
Label: Island Records
Title: I Stand On The Line
Artist: Kae Tempest
Composer: Kae Tempest
Album: Self Titled
Label: Island Records
Title: Blue In Green
Artist: Miles Davis
Composer: Miles Davis
Album: Kind of Blue
Label: Island Records
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Isabella Tropiano and Timothy Jenkins
May 24
54 min

Barry Conyngham’s piece Ice Carving isn’t performed very often, and almost never in its intended configuration - a solo violinist surrounded by an audience, who are then surrounded by 4 string orchestras. It’s finally getting its proper form at The Ian Potter Centre in Melbourne and Barry takes us back to the inspiration, at The Imperial Palace in Tokyo.
It's been 30 years since Mogwai released their debut single, Tuner/Lower, and the band have gone from one of the young teams of rock to one of post-rock's longest running groups. Stuart Braithwaite, the band's guitarist and occasional singer, looks back on the band's three decades.
Tortoise, another central figure in post-rock, are also celebrating 30 years since one of their biggest albums, Millions Now Living Will Never Die. John McEntire explains how the band decides which drummer will play on a given track, why they're drawn to unusual time-signatures, and why it took 10 years for them to complete their latest record.
Ice Carving has three shows on May 29. Details here
Tour dates for Mogwai, beginning on May 23 at Vivid in Sydney, are available here
Tour dates for Tortoise, beginning May 27 in Sydney, are available here
Music heard in this program:
Title: Mogwai Fear Satan
Artist: Mogwai
Composer: Mogwai
Album: Young Team
Label: Spunk
Title: Ice Carving
Artist: Sydney Symphony Orchestra & Wilfred Lehmann
Composer: Barry Conyngham
Album: Live performance
Label: ABC Music
Title: What Kind of Mix Is This
Artist: Mogwai
Composer: Mogwai
Album: The Bad Fire
Label: Rock Action Records
Title: Yes! I Am A Long Way From Home
Artist: Mogwai
Composer: Mogwai
Album: Young Team
Label: Spunk
Title: Oganesson
Artist: Tortoise
Composer: Tortoise
Album: Touch
Label: International Anthem Recording Company
Title: Glass Museum
Artist: Tortoise
Composer: Tortoise
Album: Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Label: Thrill Jockey
Title: After Rain
Artist: Hilary Geddes Quartet
Composer: Hilary Geddes
Album: Redleaf
Label: Earshift Music
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Isabella Tropiano
May 23
54 min

Judy Small is a fixture of the Australian folk scene, a writer and performer of songs about politics and people. She joins Andy to recap the thirty-ish years since she was last on the show, including a career in family law and as a federal judge, and the process she's been undertaking of recording some of her last songs (Swansongs) and appearing at the 60th National Folk Festival.
And Ce Benedict reports from the festival itself, where transcontinental dulcimer jams, children busking, and bardic reinterpretations of Smashmouth all contribute to one of Australia's most distinctive festival experiences.
Music heard in the show:
Title: Home Home
Artist: Apolline
Composer: Hickey, Luisa
Album: Home Home
Label: Independent Release
Title: Stand Or Fall, Within These Walls (Yad Vashem)
Artist: Judy Small
Composer: Small, Judy
Album: Swansongs
Label: Independent Release
Title: The White Bay Paper Seller
Artist: Judy Small
Composer: Small, Judy
Album: Mothers, Daughters, Wives / Ladies and Gems
Label: Independent Release
Title: You Don't Speak For Me
Artist: Judy Small
Composer: Small, Judy
Album: Judy Small - Best of the 80s
Label: Independent Release
Title: Encanto
Artist: Maryam Rahmani
Composer: Rahmani, Maryam
Album: Kamand
Label: Independent Release
Label: Independent Release
Title: Home Home
Artist: Apolline
Composer: Hickey, Luisa
Album: Home Home
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Emrys Cronin and Timothy Jenkins
May 17
54 min

Xiu Xiu has been a leading figure in American avant-pop for more than two decades: combining abrasive noise and extremely dark subject matter with a catchy pop sensibility. It’s perhaps no surprise then that they’ve been drawn to the work of David Lynch, releasing their version of the music of Twin Peaks, and now, appearing at Dark Mofo in Tasmania to present their take on Eraserhead. Jamie Stewart talks passion, performance, and Dolly Parton.
in 1707 Alessandro Scarlatti wrote an oratorio called il primo omicidio - The First Murder. It features Cain, Abel, their parents Adam and Eve, and (naturally) God and Satan providing a bit of sung commentary too. Ashlyn Tymms, Madison Nonoa, and Erin Helyard share Pinchgut Opera's approach, which uses a distinctly Australian setting.
Pinchgut Opera are performing The First Murder at Roslyn Packer Theatre from May 23
Music heard in this program:
Title: Jolene
Artist: Xiu Xiu
Composer: Dolly Parton
Album: Xiu MF'n Xiu
Label: Polyvinyl Record Company
Title: Common Loon
Artist: Xiu Xiu
Composer: Xiu XIu
Album: 13" Frank Beltrame Italian Stiletto With Bison Horn Grips
Label: Polyvinyl Record Company
Title: Il primo omicidio, Parte prima; 'La fraterna amica pace'
Artist: Akademie für Alte Musik Berlin and René Jacobs
Composer: Alessandro Scarlatti
Album: Scarlatti: Il primo omicidio
Label: Harmonia Mundi
Title: La Fraterna amica pace
Artist: Erin Helyard, Ashlyn Tymms, Madison Nonoa
Composer: Alessandro Scarlatti
Album: Live Performance
Title: The White Bay paper seller
Artist: Judy Small
Composer: Judy Small
Album: Ladies & Gems
Label: Crafty Maid
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Emrys Cronin and Timothy Jenkins
May 16
54 min

American Singer-songwriter Connie Converse would be hard enough to pigeonhole had she not disappeared without a trace in 1974. She wrote folk songs, and art songs, and the story of her life and disappearance is a fascinating one. It's the subject of a biography called To Anyone Who Ever Asks: The Life, Music, and Mystery of Connie Converse by Howard Fishman, who joins Andy to tell the tale and listen to her wonderful and wonderfully strange songs.
Gia Margaret's new album is called Singing, fitting for her first return to vocal music after eight years of having lost her voice. As she tells Andy, adversity led her to finding creativity in instrumental writing, which she's now brought back to the voice for her latest release.
And we hear new music by tar virtuoso Hamed Sadeghi from his new album, Convergence.
Join us for The Music Show at Sydney Writers' Festival on 21 May with Ziggy Ramo, Leah Senior and Kate Fagan
May 10
54 min

Voiceless Mass, by Raven Chacon, can be performed in 'any space of worship with high ceilings and pipe organ' and plays with the amplifying power of a church's architecture, while commenting on the silencing of voices and languages that churches have been active in throughout their history. It won the composer the Pulitzer Prize for music in 2022 and is heading to the Rising Festival in Melbourne.
Raven talks to Andy about the intersection of politics and music, his role as a mentor, and what he wants to add to John Cage's understanding of silence.
The huge sound of the Melbourne Town Hall grand organ might seem like an unusual choice for the composer and guitarist Cam Butler, but for his latest album, he had a chance to take over the hall - and brought along a rock band and a string orchestra to complete the mix. Cam’s project is a cinematic album of guitar-organ-strings-rock maximalism, called World Forever and he shares how he approached this latest challenge, and how he gets the most from his normal instrument, the guitar.
Cam Butler will be performing World Forever live at the Melbourne Town Hall on May 22.
Join us for The Music Show at Sydney Writers' Festival on 21 May with Ziggy Ramo, Leah Senior and Kate Fagan
Music heard in this program:
Title: Haunted Ruins
Artist: Cam Butler
Composer: Cam Butler
Album: World Forever
Label: Heavy Machinery Records
Title: Voicless Mass
Artist: Present Music
Composer: Raven Chacon
Album: Raven Chacon: Voiceless Mass
Label: New World Records
Title: Don't Cry (Your Father & Grandfather Are Good
Artist: Himba Hymn Collective
Composer: Himba Hymn Collective
Album: Himba Hymn: Ghosts Of Namibia's Skeleton Coast
Label: Sublime Frequencies
Title: World Forever
Artist: Cam Butler
Composer: Cam Butler
Album: World Forever
Label: Heavy Machinery Records
Title: Clear Infinity
Artist: Cam Butler
Composer: Cam Butler
Album: World Forever
Label: Heavy Machinery Records
Title: Rotten
Artist: Gia Margaret
Composer: Gia Margaret
Album: Singing
Label: Jagjaguwar
The Music Show is made on Gadigal, Gundungurra, and Wurundjeri Woi Wurrung Country Country
Technical production by Isabella Tropiano
May 9
54 min
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