
Verno and Jacoby return to discuss the Celtics trading Jaylen Brown to the Philadelphia 76ers and debate Brad Stevens's reasoning for trading him away at this point in time. Next, they discuss Giannis Antetokounmpo’s comments since being traded to the Miami Heat, their latest ideas on where LeBron James will end up, and the most recent free agency news. Also, a brief conversation about Cameron Boozer, Darryn Peterson, and the early slate of NBA summer league games.
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(4:01) Brad Stevens and the Celtics front office speak on trading Jaylen Brown to the 76ers
(22:13) Giannis Antetokounmpo speaks on leaving Milwaukee
(30:08) Origins of the LeBron James whiteboard and dissecting where he could possibly go
(39:57) Recent free agent news: DeMar DeRozan waived, Rui Hachimura signs with the Clippers, and Quinten Post’s Grizzlies offer sheet
(46:57) Early summer league reactions
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Jul 7
1 hr

Free agency is here as Verno and Jacoby react to all the news, starting with the reporting that LeBron James is set to move on from the Lakers and join a new team next season. They then debate whether Kawhi Leonard’s return to the Raptors actually moves the needle for them or the Clippers, and Verno then shares his disappointment with how Ja Morant’s time in Memphis ended. Also, they discuss the ongoing awkwardness between the Celtics and Jaylen Brown, and the weird restricted free agency market surrounding Walker Kessler and Jalen Duren.
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(2:42) LeBron James is moving on from the Lakers. Where will he find happiness?
(15:40) Cavs big-game hunting, and imagining LeBron to the Spurs
(21:49) Clippers trade Kawhi Leonard to the Raptors
(30:52) Ja Morant’s sad ending with the Memphis Grizzlies
(40:32) Relating to Jaylen Brown’s situation
(51:05) Walker Kessler and Jalen Duren’s restricted free agency
(56:39) Rapid fire moves made
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Jul 1
1 hr 13 min

Verno and Jacoby are back, as they discuss the blockbuster trade between the Hornets and Timberwolves that sent LaMelo Ball to Minnesota and Naz Reid to Charlotte. They take a look at the trade from both sides, debate whether either team is finished making moves and if the trade will inspire LaMelo to take his game to a different level. Next, Verno shares his absolute excitement for Isaiah Stewart’s arrival in Memphis, whether or not the Celtics will actually trade Jaylen Brown, and the surprising lack of a market for Ja Morant. Also, the rumors of Kawhi Leonard being open to signing an extension with a former team, and the Lakers absolutely needing to sign Austin Reaves to the max contract.
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(2:17) Hornets get a fresh start, trade LaMelo Ball to the Timberwolves
(19:51) Tim Connelly takes another big swing with acquiring LaMelo Ball and trading away fan favorite Naz Reid
(23:47) Pistons trade Isaiah Stewart to the Grizzlies
(32:40) Will the Celtics actually trade Jaylen Brown?
(39:27) Where is the market for Ja Morant?
(48:02) Is Kawhi Leonard going back to the Spurs or Raptors
(49:58) Was it smart for the Lakers to give Austin Reaves a max contract?
(58:59) Second-round draft recap
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Jun 26
1 hr 6 min

Verno and Jacoby react to the first round of the NBA draft, beginning with Verno’s thoughts on the Grizzlies drafting Cameron Boozer and a debate on whether Ja Morant will get traded at all. They then dive into the rest of the top 10 picks. They also discuss how college basketball has evolved when it comes to scouting for the NBA, the lack of surprises and shocking moments from the first round, and how the new anti-tanking rules will affect future drafts. Next, the long-awaited return of the Prospector, who shares the picks he did not like from the first round and which players he likes heading into tonight’s second round.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(3:58) Is Ja Morant staying in Memphis?
(6:41) Verno on the Grizzlies drafting Cameron Boozer
(10:36) Reactions to the Nets drafting Mikel Brown Jr. and the Kings drafting Darius Acuff Jr.
(16:14) Why we'll have fewer draft "busts" now
(26:17) No surprises or shocking draft picks
(32:08) How will the new anti-tanking rules affect the draft going forward?
(40:13) The Spurs are loading up around Wemby
(53:54) The Prospector returns
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Jun 24
1 hr 10 min

Verno and Jacoby return to discuss everything that went down during yesterday’s Knicks championship parade, including all the wild viral moments. The guys then turn the page to next week’s NBA draft and discuss how the top four could go. They also debate if Giannis Antetokounmpo will finally get traded, where will LeBron James sign, and other potential moves leading up to the draft.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(00:23) Jacoby details his experience going to the Knicks championship parade
(8:33) Viral parade moments
(17:29) Jalen Brunson’s parade speech
(23:17) New York was still popping hours after the parade
(27:07) Finals thoughts on Knicks championship
(28:55) NBA draft incoming
(30:41) AJ Dybantsa or Darryn Peterson?
(41:28) The Prospector will return
(43:15) Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron James, and other potential offseason moves
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Jun 19
59 min

Verno and Jacoby return to celebrate the New York Knicks' first championship in more than 50 years. Jacoby describes his day leading up to Game 5 as well as the aftermath in the city. The guys also share 10 thoughts from the Knicks' Finals victory.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(2:36) Jacoby describes his day leading up to Game 5
(7:28) Hitting the New York streets after the Knicks' win
(14:46) Will Jalen Brunson remain underrated?
(21:13) Brunson is a wartime consigliere
(27:00) Comparing these Finals to the tortoise and the hare
(31:34) Shout-out to the Spurs
(33:38) Shout-out to Leon Rose and Worldwide Wes
(43:49) Can the Knicks run it all the way back to the Finals?
(47:04) How Brunson’s Finals performance impacts kids with overbearing fathers
(50:13) Hating Victor Wembanyama has gone mainstream
(55:48) The road map to a championship has solidified
(1:01:48) Let’s enjoy the Knicks winning the titleVisit
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Jun 16
1 hr 10 min

The Knicks pulled off the impossible in Game 4 and are now one win away from their first championship in 53 years. Verno and Jacoby discuss just how the Knicks were able to beat the Spurs after being down 29 points. Jacoby recaps his night watching the game and his belief that the Knicks were always going to win, as well as the impact plays from both the Knicks and Spurs. They also briefly discuss their issues with Knicks celebrity row, why the Spurs aren’t playing Dylan Harper more, OG Anunoby’s block and game-winning tip-in, and their predictions for Game 5 on Saturday.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(2:32) Knicks complete the biggest comeback in NBA Finals history and take a 3-1 series lead
(11:21) Jose Alvarado’s impact on the Knicks' comeback
(24:38) What will be remembered more: De’Aaron Fox not running out the clock or Victor Wembanyama’s missed free throws?
(34:50) Jacoby still uneasy about the Knicks
(38:16) Why not more Dylan Harper?
(41:04) Knicks celebrity row issues
(49:08) OG Anunoby with the game of his life
(54:05) Josh Hart’s miss and Karl-Anthony Towns’s fingertip block
(57:50) Happy for Mike Breen
(1:09:43) Aftermath of Jacoby’s dislike for Wemby
(1:15:00) Game 5 predictions
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Jun 12
1 hr 21 min

Verno and Jacoby react to the Spurs holding off the Knicks in Game 3 of the NBA Finals as Victor Wembanyama bounces back after missing a game-winning shot at the end of Game 2 to help give the Spurs their first win of the series. The guys discuss what went wrong for the Knicks, how the referees influenced the game, Wemby’s push on Jalen Brunson, as well as the big and small picture for the Knicks for the rest of the series. Also, they debate whether the Knicks were relying on Brunson too much, Jacoby’s dislike for Wemby, and whether Game 4 will determine the eventual winner of the series.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(3:00) Spurs stun Knicks at MSG
(10:48) The referees' influence on Game 3
(15:13) Wemby pushing Jalen Brunson
(21:49) Will the series be decided by the outcome of Game 4?
(30:34) The Knicks got Brunson-centric
(32:29) Is Wemby fatigued?
(35:40) Big picture/small picture for the Knicks
(45:08) Jacoby is not a fan of Wemby
(51:55) Guessing the line for Game 4
(59:26) Predictions for Game 4
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Jun 9
1 hr 9 min

Verno and Jacoby break down a wild Game 1 from every angle—including Jacoby's upper-deck view from inside the Frost Bank Center. Jalen Brunson went into the tunnel and came out a closer, dropping 13 of his 30 points in the fourth quarter when it mattered most. KAT bullied Wemby all night long, and Wemby shot just 6-of-21 in his NBA Finals debut. The Knicks stole one in San Antonio—but is this series really over? Not even close.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(2:04) Jacoby drops $888 to take in the moment of a Knicks Game 1 win
(8:32) Inside the arena: San Antonio's kindness vs. New York's chaos energy
(15:45) "We've got a guy" — Brunson's fourth-quarter run
(28:29) KAT was built for this moment — 18 points, 12 rebounds, and Wemby had no answer
(38:56) Hart and Alvarado — the unsung heroes of Game 1
(43:00) Looking ahead: Can Wemby and the Spurs adjust to the Knicks?
(52:56) Game 2 predictions and series outlook
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Jun 5
1 hr 10 min

Verno and Jacoby are back to break down how a remarkably poised Spurs squad knocked off Oklahoma City in seven—then turn their full attention to the Finals. They dig into the tactical chess match of stopping Victor Wembanyama, why Josh Hart is the Knicks' X-factor, and whether Mitchell Robinson can be effective with a busted finger. Plus, the regular-season history between these two teams, MVP odds, and why New York City is already losing its mind before tip-off.
(00:00) Welcome to The Mismatch!
(2:14) Dissecting the WCF–What impressed you most about the Spurs-Thunder series?
(4:24) Is the discourse toward Chet warranted?
(17:24) Western Conference team building: How will teams deal with the Spurs and Wemby?
(20:46) Confidence is contagious for the Spurs: Rookie Dylan Harper plays like a veteran
(27:35) Knicks are underdogs even though they breezed through the ECF
(30:33) What we learned from the Spurs-Knicks regular-season matchups
(34:10) Keys to win for the Knicks: Josh Hart
(45:12) Wemby and Brunson are the betting favorites for Finals MVP
(47:48) What really happened to Mitchell Robinson and his broken pinkie?
(53:53) Changing of the guard in the NBA: Spurs' youth over Knicks veterans
(1:00:23) The Knicks are giving Gotham something to cheer about
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Jun 2
1 hr 11 min
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