Diners often like to throw out the question of “authenticity” when talking about Mexican restaurants. But a growing number of chefs are pushing back on the whole concept and introducing people to Mexican cuisine as a complex and ever-evolving tradition. In our debut episode of The Makers podcast, chefs Gabe Erales, Diego Galicia, and Rico Torres discuss how they are challenging their diners’ expectations of Mexican food at their restaurants in Texas.

We’ll be having conversations with other chefs about how they define their cuisine, approach their craft, and how they see the culinary industry progressing. Stay tuned for more episodes of The Makers podcast, made in partnership with Maker’s Mark bourbon, by subscribing on your favorite podcast app. Check out chefsfeed.com/makers for more.