The MAKE IT Podcast
The MAKE IT Podcast
Chris Barkley & Nicholas Buggs
442 - Illuminai Studios Founder Jesse Weglein on Being Laid Off at Pixar, Why AI Is the Brush, Not the Artist, and Animation's Next Frontier
1 hour 46 minutes Posted Aug 7, 2026 at 9:30 am.
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Hello, Hello! 


In this episode, Chris, Nick, and Producer Papa Bear sit down with Jesse Weglein — 15 years at Pixar, now founder of Illuminai Studios — joining live from the foot of Mount Fuji. Jesse worked on UpToy Story 3, and Toy Story 4 before a mass layoff ended that run and pushed him into building his own studio. He's using AI as a tool, not a replacement, to make original animated films for audiences the industry keeps overlooking — including his short film Roar, which Whoopi Goldberg picked for the Tribeca Film Festival.


We also talk about:

  • The creative culture at Pixar and what makes it impossible to replicate — including how directors would skip watching their own films in theaters to study the audience's reactions instead
  • The global divide on AI in animation, from China's breakneck adoption of the technology to Japan's philosophical hesitation around whether AI can carry the "soul" of an artist's vision
  • The economic fragility of the animation business model, including the trend of outsourcing animation overseas and how AI might offer a path to reclaiming domestic production jobs
  • The importance of traditional art training as the essential foundation before any aspiring animator or filmmaker touches AI tools — and why skipping that foundation produces hollow, soulless content
  • The passionate debate around AI's role in filmmaking, including the social policing happening on different platforms, copyright and trademark risks when using AI-generated imagery, and the distinction between using AI to accelerate creativity versus allowing it to replace it entirely



People, Places, Products, and Websites Mentioned:

People

Jesse Weglein 

John Lasseter

Steve Jobs

Ed Catmull

Pete Docter

Frank Oz

Andrew Stanton

Whoopi Goldberg

Phil Tippett

Tim McLaughlin 

John McCarthy

Akira Kurosawa

Hayao Miyazaki

Fritz Lang

Toshiro Mifune

Lionel Messi

Ray Kurzweil

Isaac Asimov

Dario Amodei 

Sam Altman 

Brian Adler

Barbara Lowenstein 


Films & Shows

Up

Toy Story 3

Toy Story 4

Toy Story 5

The Incredibles

ROAR 

Shine (Illuminai Studios)

The Color Purple 

Metropolis (1927)

Seven Samurai 

High and Low 

The Wind Rises 

Spirited Away 

Rashomon 

Red Beard 

Starship Troopers 

Jumpin' Jack Flash 

Sister Act 

A.I. Artificial Intelligence 

Disclosure Day 

The Boy and the Heron 

The Odyssey 


Companies & Organizations

Pixar Animation Studios

ILLUMINAI Studios

Industrial Light & Magic (ILM)

Google DeepMind

Tribeca Film Festival

Texas A&M Visualization

Anthropic

OpenAI / ChatGPT

Apple

Technicolor

Nashville Film Festival

WGA


Software & Technology

Maya

Presto (Pixar's proprietary tool)

Photoshop

Suno

Ray tracing / render farm


Websites & Social Media

illuminaistudios.com

nashvillefilmfestival.org


Books & Products

Mastering Film Marketing (ebook)

Make It Academy

Up Lego Set

Luxo Jr.


Places

Emeryville, California 

Lake Kawaguchi / Mount Fuji

Tokyo, Japan

San Francisco, California

Lucas Building/Steve Jobs Building

Dartmouth College / Dartmouth workshop, 1956


Other References

The Dan Patrick Show

The View

2026 FIFA World Cup

NBA Playoffs

WHALE 52 — Suite For Man, Boy, And Whale 

Dear Upstairs Neighbors 

Joseph McCarthy / McCarthyism


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