The Learning Curve
The Learning Curve
Pioneer Institute
Join The Learning Curve every Wednesday for insight and perspective on education, learning trends, school choice, and public policy. Our hosts and guests offer a mix of provocative commentary as they interview school leaders, innovators, bestselling authors, policymakers, and more. Send any suggestions, tips, and fan mail to [email protected] to all episodes of The Learning Curve at Ricochet.com.
NYT-Best Seller Dr. Kevin Gutzman on the Jeffersonian Presidents
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and retired MN Supreme Court Justice Barry Anderson speak with Prof. Kevin Gutzman, Professor and former Chairman of the Department of History at Western Connecticut State University, and New York Times best selling author of The Jeffersonians: The Visionary Presidencies of Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe. Prof. Gutzman examines the political and constitutional legacy of America’s “Virginia Dynasty,” beginning with President Thomas Jefferson’s philosophy of limited government, states' rights, and religious liberty. He explores Jefferson’s sharp political differences with the Federalists, the importance of his first inaugural address, and major events such as the Louisiana Purchase and the Embargo Act. Turning to President James Madison, Prof. Gutzman discusses the “Father of the Constitution’s” disastrous administration during the War of 1812, and reflects on how the conflict severely tested Jeffersonian political ideals. He also considers the jurisprudence of President Madison's nominee Justice Joseph Story and his relationship with Chief Justice John Marshall and other members of the U.S. Supreme Court. Prof. Gutzman highlights President James Monroe’s often overlooked achievements, including the Monroe Doctrine and the “Era of Good Feelings,” while assessing the enduring legacy of the Jeffersonian presidents in shaping the Early Republic. He closes with a reading from The Jeffersonians: The Visionary Presidencies of Jefferson, Madison, and Monroe.
May 13
46 min
Florida's Julie Young on Say Yes! How Virtual Became Reality
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Prof. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas and the Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Julie Young, edupreneur, innovator, and author of Say Yes! How Virtual Became Reality. She reflects on the pivotal moment in 1997 when she said “yes” to launching Florida Virtual School, sharing what it meant to build a new model of education from the ground up with limited resources and bold vision. Young draws a clear distinction between emergency remote learning and higher-quality virtual education, explaining how confusion between the two during the pandemic negatively impacted students. She discusses early leadership lessons, including guidance from then-Governor Jeb Bush, and what it took to scale a model centered on “any time, any place, any path, any pace.” Young also explores how she built a dynamic organizational culture amid skepticism, and what lessons she carried—and intentionally left behind—when founding ASU Prep Digital. She offers insights on staffing innovation, leadership, and the opportunities and challenges AI presents for the future of education. In closing, she reads a passage from Say Yes!: How Virtual Became Reality.
May 6
46 min
Wash. U's Gerald Early on Play Harder: The Triumph of Black Baseball in America
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Prof. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Gerald Early, Merle Kling Professor of Modern Letters at Washington University in St. Louis, and author of Play Harder: The Triumph of Black Baseball in America. He shares how his background and education fueled a passion to study the history of African Americans in sports and music, ultimately inspiring him to explore Black Americans in baseball. Working closely with filmmaker Ken Burns, Early described his experience working with the filmmaker on multiple high-profile documentaries to examine the role baseball and jazz music have played in shaping American culture. Switching gears to discuss his latest book, Prof. Early offered a brief overview of the highlights of Black baseball in America from after the Civil War to the turn-of-the-century. He recognized key Black entrepreneurs like Andrew “Rube” Foster, the Negro Leagues, and the players Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, and Jackie Robinson, for their leadership in redefining the game’s excellence and paving the way for other Black Americans in baseball. He discusses the significance of the Brooklyn Dodgers desegregating Major League Baseball, highlighting the talent and heroism of Jackie Robinson, and shares the legacy that Black baseball players have contributed to American sports and democracy. In closing, Early reads an excerpt from Play Harder: The Triumph of Black Baseball in America.
Apr 29
46 min
Harvard Pulitzer Winner Stephen Greenblatt on Christopher Marlowe - Elizabethan Playwright & Spy
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Prof. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Stephen Greenblatt, Cogan University Professor of the Humanities at Harvard University and one of the world’s foremost scholars of Renaissance literature. Greenblatt discusses his acclaimed book, Dark Renaissance: The Dangerous Times and Fatal Genius of Shakespeare’s Greatest Rival, and explores the remarkable life, work, and legacy of Christopher Marlowe. He explains how Marlowe, the son of a cobbler from Canterbury, rose through England’s demanding classical education system to become one of the boldest playwrights of the Elizabethan era. Prof. Greenblatt examines the political and cultural climate of Elizabethan England, shaped by censorship, religious conflict, and surveillance, and how those pressures influenced Marlowe’s daring artistic voice. Greenblatt also unpacks enduring mysteries surrounding Marlowe’s life, including theories that he served as a secret agent for Sir Francis Walsingham, Queen Elizabeth I's spymaster. He also discusses Marlowe’s landmark plays Tamburlaine and Doctor Faustus, his celebrated poetry, and the dramatic innovations that transformed English theater. Additionally, he also reflects on Marlowe’s rivalry with Shakespeare, mysterious death, and enduring influence on literature today. In closing, Prof. Greenblatt reads a passage from his book, Dark Renaissance: The Dangerous Times and Fatal Genius of Shakespeare’s Greatest Rival.
Apr 22
43 min
Discovery Institute's Dr. Keri Ingraham on School Choice & Edu Federalism
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Prof. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas and American Federation for Children’s Walter Blanks speak with Dr. Keri Ingraham, Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute. Dr. Ingraham reflects on her academic and athletic journey, including being an Academic All-American, and how it shaped her belief in discipline, opportunity, and high expectations in education. She shares that in deep blue states like Washington, Oregon, California, and New York, strong teacher union political influence has often limited K-12 reform and innovation. Despite roughly $800 billion in annual K–12 spending, she points to stagnant academic outcomes, highlighted by National Assessment of Educational Progress results, as evidence that funding alone is insufficient without meaningful school choice and accountability. She discusses persistent achievement gaps and their economic consequences, emphasizing how today’s workforce increasingly rewards knowledge and skills. She also highlights the rapid expansion of school choice policies following landmark U.S. Supreme Court decisions, such as Espinoza v. Montana Department of Revenue and Carson v. Makin, and critiques testing monopolies like those tied to the College Board. Dr. Ingraham concludes by underscoring the importance of federalism and a more limited role for the Beltway in education, with states, localities, and parents leading the way on school reform efforts.
Apr 15
39 min
DFI's Jim Blew & Lynch's Katie Everett on Fed. Ed. Tax Credit in Blue States
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Prof. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Jim Blew, founder of the Defense of Freedom Institute, and Katie Everett, executive director of the Lynch Foundation. They explore the newly established federal education tax credit program and its national implications. Blew traces the policy’s origins to proposals from former U.S. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos, while unpacking how the program allows taxpayers to receive credits for donations that fund scholarships for private schooling, tutoring, and specialized services. Everett discusses the growing number of states opting in and why Massachusetts remains a key battleground, citing political resistance, state constitutional barriers to private school choice, and the influence of teachers’ unions, while arguing the program could expand access and greater opportunity for all students. They highlight lessons from post-pandemic school choice expansion, the significance of Colorado's Democratic Gov. Jared Polis opting in, and whether the program’s voluntary structure will encourage broader adoption or deepen divides. Katie concludes with a preview of her upcoming event on April 15th at the John F. Kennedy Presidential Library on what this federal initiative could mean for families across Massachusetts and the country.
Apr 8
44 min
Gijs van Hensbergen on Antoni Gaudí & the Sagrada Família
In this week’s special Easter episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Prof. Albert Cheng of the University of Arkansas and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Dutch art historian Gijs van Hensbergen, author of Gaudí: A Biography and The Sagrada Familia: Gaudí's Heaven on Earth. They discuss the life, faith, and enduring legacy of Antoni Gaudí and his masterpiece, the Sagrada Família. Mr. van Hensbergen reflects on Gaudí’s upbringing in Catalonia, where deep Catholic devotion, modern artistic dynamism, and the natural landscape shaped his unique architectural philosophy. He explores how Barcelona’s Modernisme movement, alongside avant-garde artists like Salvador Dalí and Joan Miró, fostered Gaudí’s distinctive blend of Neo-Gothic, Art Nouveau, and organic design. He highlights Gaudí’s vision of the Sagrada Família as a “stone Bible,” uniting theology, geometry, and nature-inspired engineering. Mr. van Hensbergen also discusses the Nativity, Passion, and Glory façades, each representing key moments in the life of Jesus Christ, and the challenges of continuing construction after the destruction of Gaudí’s plans and models during the Spanish Civil War. In closing, Mr. van Hensberger reflects on Gaudí’s lasting influence and the spiritual and artistic significance of his work, by reading a passage from Gaudí: A Biography.
Apr 3
45 min
Aaron Lansky on the Yiddish Book Center & Preserving Jewish Culture
In this Passover episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts Alisha Searcy of the Center for Strong Public Schools and Eos Foundation’s Andrea Silbert speak with Aaron Lansky, founder of the Yiddish Book Center and author of Outwitting History: The Amazing Adventures of a Man Who Rescued a Million Yiddish Books. Lansky delves into his personal relationship to Yiddish literature and the formative educational experiences that led to him found the Yiddish Book Center in 1980. He explains the history of the Yiddish language, and how many of its words have been integrated into the English vocabulary over the years. Rescuing over one million Yiddish books, Lansky elaborated on why it was so important for him to honor the victims of the Holocaust and by preserving the enduring legacy of Jewish literature. He also reflected on his experience writing Outwitting History sharing how the book is another opportunity to preserve the Yiddish language, books, and memory of those Eastern European Jews who perished due to the tyranny of Nazi Germany. Lansky concluded by reading an excerpt from his book and offering advice on how the following generations can continue to uphold the Yiddish language and culture.
Apr 1
46 min
U-MI's Sarah Cohodes on Charter Public Schools & Paths to College Success
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and Center for Strong Public Schools’ Alisha Searcy speak with Sarah Cohodes, Associate Professor of Public Policy at the University of Michigan, about her extensive research on charter public schools and education reform. Cohodes reflects on her academic journey and how it shaped her focus on school accountability, autonomy, and student outcomes. She explains the foundational charter school model—greater state regulatory flexibility in exchange for stronger accountability—and emphasizes the importance of rigorous authorization and data transparency. She highlights her 2021 research on charter effectiveness, showing strong gains for low-income students in urban areas and positive competitive effects on district schools. Cohodes also discusses high-performing charter networks, the importance of exceptional teachers and leaders, and Massachusetts’ charter schools’ standout success in closing achievement gaps and improving college outcomes. She concludes with a forward-looking discussion on policy solutions to address declining academic performance and how research can guide leaders and families in improving opportunities for urban students nationwide.
Mar 25
37 min
Willard Sterne Randall on Alexander Hamilton & Founding Era Political-Economy
In this week’s episode of The Learning Curve, co-hosts U-Ark Prof. Albert Cheng and former MN Supreme Court Justice Barry Anderson speak with Prof. Willard Sterne Randall, American historian and author of Alexander Hamilton: A Life and The Founders' Fortunes: How Money Shaped the Birth of America. Prof. Randall delves into the turbulent childhood of Alexander Hamilton, describing pivotal experiences that shaped his political views and led him to become a world-changing Founding Father. While working under Gen. George Washington during the American Revolution, Hamilton expanded his knowledge of constitutionalism and political economy, which, Mr. Randall tells us, led to helping create the United States and establish the new republic’s financial stability. In the 1780s, Hamilton joined James Madison and John Jay in co-authoring the Federalist Papers promoting the ratification of the U.S. Constitution, famously advocating for federal executive power and the judiciary. Prof. Randall explores Hamilton’s transition into power as the first U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, describing Hamilton’s tense political rivalry with Thomas Jefferson. Notably, Alexander Hamilton’s Report on Manufactures (1791) argued for U.S. industrial self-sufficiency, which Mr. Randall explains contributed to Hamilton’s enduring legacy. In closing, Prof. Randall explores how Hamilton’s historical significance and reputation was brought to new and wider audiences through Lin-Manuel Miranda’s Broadway hit musical Hamilton.
Mar 18
23 min
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