The Industry and I
The Industry and I
Laila Zakaria & Cate Ureña
Cate and Laila delve into the fashion and beauty industry from a view of the trenches. Discussing industry politics, experiences, race, opportunities and more.
New Year, Same Old Us
We're so sorry to have kept you waiting for so long for episode 5! In this episode we discuss what it's like still living in a pandemic and what that means for beauty. The new trend in "clean", "sustainable" beauty and why for the larger corporations that look always seems to be dated. 
Jan 13, 2022
57 min
Digestive Bitters
back on our bullshit
Jul 8, 2021
41 min
In Beyoncé's comments talking to yourself
In this episode we discuss stylist's Jason Bolden and Law Roach's recent reaction to an article by journalist Booth Moore and we use one of their points about black talent as a diving board to share some of our experiences. We also discuss why you should be embarrassed about talking to yourself in Beyoncé's comment section. 
Mar 22, 2021
45 min
Trust Issues
It's Black History Month in the US and today we discuss trust issues among creative black folk, self care strategies and what clout delivers. We also delve into the role of agents and listen in to find out which one of us is a sensitive thug.
Feb 6, 2021
1 hr 3 min
Origin Story
Join us for our first episode our Origin story,  as makeup artists. We touch on the dish of the day aka Virgil Abloh's pandering and why  we're all Muva Pat's sons-  and why you need to exude male energy as an assistant. 
Jan 26, 2021
1 hr 19 min