In this episode, Bard MBA student Jake Rosenzweig-Stein interviews Bill Fotsch, business consultant and researcher, about economic engagement and its role in building more equitable, resilient businesses. Bill introduces his five-pillar framework, grounded in 30 years of research, and explains how treating employees as true partners drives double the profit growth of traditional management approaches. The conversation covers how economic engagement supports ESOP conversions, succession planning, and local economic resilience.