The Hot Dish
The Hot Dish
The One Country Project
Former U.S. Senator Heidi Heitkamp and her brother, KFGO radio talk show host Joel Heitkamp, engage in animated discussions with newsmakers, elected leaders, and policymakers who are creating new opportunities for rural Americans and finding practical solutions to their challenges. Punctuated with entertaining conversations and a healthy dose of sibling rivalry, The Hot Dish, from the One Country Project, is informative, enlightening, and downright fun.
Tim Miller on GOP Corruption and Betrayal
Rural voters keep hearing about scandal in Washington, but most of it never gets past the surface. Tim Miller, host of the Bulwark Podcast, joins Heidi to dig into what's actually driving political corruption right now, from foreign money shaping U.S. policy to the insider trading scandals barely making headlines.Tim traces how political corruption has evolved, from straightforward kickbacks to the foreign money now quietly steering decisions on war and energy. He and Heidi also get into what's happening back home in North Dakota, where data centers are reshaping local economies and testing what rural communities are willing to trade for growth.In this episode:How decades of scandal have made it normal for politicians to profit off their powerHow foreign money, especially from the Gulf states, shapes U.S. decisions on war and energyInsider trading and bribery in how political campaigns get fundedWhat the lawsuits against Trump show about deeper corruptionThe midterm outlook in Iowa and North Dakota, and why low voter enthusiasm could hurt incumbentsHow data centers are changing rural economies and who actually benefitsWhy Democrats keep losing the messaging fight, and what could turn that aroundConnect with Tim MillerBulwark PodcastTwitterCorruption doesn't announce itself. Tim and Heidi tell you where to actually look.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - -- Opening: family updates and life outside politics (01:52) - -- Corruption in government, from foreign money to insider access (06:18) - -- Banking litigation and what discovery could reveal (08:44) - -- Why corruption feels different now (10:02) - -- Midterm strategy, Iowa, and the rural political map (13:51) - -- Redistricting, turnout, and the enthusiasm gap (17:06) - -- Corruption, broken promises, and the forever war (20:45) - -- Oil profits and Trump's shifting base (23:36) - -- Data centers and rural backlash (29:34) - -- Trump's declining visibility in rural America (31:41) - -- Democrats, socialism messaging, and the real majority (39:05) - -- How Democrats should respond
Aug 5
42 min
Decoding Trump with Aaron Rupar
Trump is fighting to control how states run their own elections, and the fallout could shape the midterms before a vote is cast. Aaron Rupar, an independent journalist who's tracked Trump and the media covering him for years, joins Heidi and Joel to break down what's happening and why it matters outside Washington.Aaron explains how he tells what's real from what isn't, in a news cycle built for speed, and why he left Vox to build Public Notice on his own terms. He also gets into how Twitter/X, Bluesky, and Substack have split the audience for political news, and what that means when rural voters end up with different versions of the same story depending on where they look.In this episode:What Trump's push for more control over state elections actually meansHow Aaron fact-checks claims in real time without getting it wrongWhy he left Vox to go independent, and what changedPlatform fragmentation: Twitter/X, Bluesky, Substack, and what it does to political coverageThe enthusiasm gap heading into the midterms, on both sidesConnect with Aaron Rupar:SubstackBlueskyAaron's argument is simple. Watch the elections fight, not the noise around it.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - – Introduction: Aaron Rupar's role tracking political misinformation (02:09) - – Platform fragmentation and the shift in conservative messaging (Twitter, Bluesky, Substack, Threads, Facebook, Truth Social) (04:35) - – How platform diversification affects public trust in news (05:50) - – Fact-checking, legal risk, and misinformation from figures like RFK Jr. (08:15) - – Washington's press culture: independent journalists, source relationships, and Trump's war on the press (12:19) - – Media versus power at the correspondents' dinner, and journalism's growing accountability role (14:02) - – Election outlook: enthusiasm, turnout, and party dynamics (15:26) - – Trump's strategy and the risk of election interference (22:12) - – State races, endorsements, and local campaigning (23:21) - – Voter enthusiasm, fear-based messaging, and eroding democratic safeguards (31:38) - – Minnesota politics and party resilience (33:50) - – Local, coalition-based strategy over ideological purity
Jul 29
36 min
Data Centers, Tariffs, and the Fight for Rural Votes
Data centers are showing up in rural counties across the country, and not everyone is happy about it. Isaac Wright, a strategist who's spent two decades working rural campaigns, joins Heidi and Joel to talk about why that is, what tariffs have cost farmers selling to Brazil and China, and why he sees real opportunity for Democrats in Iowa and Ohio in the midterms.Isaac explains why rural voters respond to authenticity and local trust over national talking points, and what Rob Sand's win in Iowa says about how to build that trust. He also gets into AI regulation, and what it would look like for policy to actually reflect the values Democrats say they hold.In this episode:Why Iowa and Ohio look like real opportunities this cycleData centers: local jobs versus strain on water and powerWhat tariffs on Brazil and China have cost farmersBuilding trust and likability in rural racesWhat it actually means to "localize" a campaignConnect with Isaac Wright:LinkedInIsaac makes a clear case for what it takes to win back rural voters, one county at a time.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - - Introduction (02:14) - - Isaac Wright's background in rural strategy (04:01) - - Midterm outlook: gains and voter disillusionment (06:04) - - Key races in Iowa and Ohio (09:23) - - Values and local issues in rural campaigns (15:07) - - Trust and likability in rural elections (18:09) - - Data centers: opportunities and community concerns (26:39) - - Messaging on tariffs and trade (34:05) - - Short-term realignment and national politics (39:16) - - Closing thoughts: the long-term opportunity for Democrats
Jul 22
42 min
Saving Small Farms, with Rep. Angie Craig
Farm country has been waiting on a new farm bill for almost two years. Angie Craig, the top Democrat on the House Agriculture Committee and a Minnesota congresswoman now running for the state's open Senate seat, joins Heidi and Joel to talk about what's holding it up, what tariffs have cost rural families, and why farm bankruptcies are becoming as much a security question as an economic one.Angie covers the imbalance that lets large agribusiness thrive while beginning farmers struggle to get a foothold, what immigration enforcement means for rural communities, and where she thinks the next farm bill needs to go if it's going to help anyone outside the biggest operations.In this episode:The status of the farm bill and what it means for small and beginning farmersThe impact of trade tariffs on U.S. agricultureRising farm bankruptcies and farm suicidesRebuilding trust and economic resilience in rural communitiesPolitical dynamics in Congress between Republican and Democratic membersElection timing and Minnesota's primary processICE reform and immigration policy's effect on rural laborResources & Links:Angie Craig Official WebsiteConnect with Angie Craig:InstagramFacebookTwitterCongresswoman Craig makes a solid case for where Washington has failed rural America, and where it goes from here. The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - - Introduction: Craig's district and rural policy focus (00:34) - - Farm bill negotiations with Republicans (03:25) - - Family farmers and rising bankruptcies (05:40) - - Structuring a farm bill for small and beginning farmers (09:43) - - Tariffs, trade wars, and international markets (14:06) - - Policy decisions and rural mental health (16:02) - - Immigration enforcement and its effect on communities (18:22) - - Winning rural voters and rebuilding trust (24:06) - - Immigration reform: farm labor and DACA recipients (30:50) - - Bipartisanship and election timing (35:22) - - Craig's campaign goals and vision for Minnesota
Jul 15
43 min
The Truth About Screw Worms
Screw worms nearly disappeared from American ranches sixty years ago. Dr. Eric Deeble, executive director of Americans for the Common Good and former Deputy Under Secretary for Marketing and Regulatory Programs at USDA under the Biden Administration, has watched them find their way back, and he joins Heidi and Joel to explain what this parasitic fly means for livestock, trade, and the food supply.Eric covers the biology behind the outbreak, how fast one infected animal can spread it, and why the fly is finding its way north again. He also gets into a newer technique for breeding sterile flies that could make eradication cheaper this time around.In this episode:Why screw worms target living tissue and what that means for treatmentHow a sterile insect technique wiped out the fly from the U.S. the first timeWhat let the fly move north againThe economic risk ranchers face from one undetected outbreakHow egg sexing could lower the cost of eradicationResources & Links Americans for the Common Good Connect with Eric Deeble on:LinkedInSixty years of eradication work is unraveling. Eric explains what it'll take to fix that.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - - Why screw worm's return matters to agriculture (02:07) - - The fly's lifecycle and herd vulnerability (04:21) - - Myths versus reality on severity (05:43) - - Treatment and quarantine when detected (07:25) - - The cost of eradication and prevention (10:11) - - How reduced global cooperation risks a resurgence (13:22) - - Sterile insect technique: past success, recent setbacks (16:29) - - Climate and animal movement driving the spread north (18:38) - - Regional factors in where screw worm spreads (20:00) - - Funding cuts and the policy fight to maintain control (22:35) - - Consumer safety myths and real risks (24:16) - - Why continued investment in biosecurity matters (27:00) - - Final thoughts: vigilance, cooperation, funding
Jul 8
34 min
Baseball’s Hidden History of Segregation and Triumph
For America's 250th birthday, Heidi and Joel skip the fireworks and head for the ballpark, and they bring their guest, Bob Kendrick, along. He is the President of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum in Kansas City, Missouri. The museum is just a few blocks away from where the team owners established a league of their own in 1920. Bob has spent three decades making sure that the players and the stories of the Negro League are not forgotten.Bob walks Heidi and Joel through why some of the best baseball in the country got played on fields most fans never read about, how a club from Jamestown, North Dakota beat a lineup of big-league stars, and what happened to the Negro Leagues the day Jackie Robinson finally got his shot. Bob has answers and a lot of good stories to go with them.In this episode:How Jim Crow forced Black players into their own leagues, and how they answered on the fieldSatchel Paige, Hank Aaron, Jackie Robinson, and careers the majors delayed or erasedWhy Negro Leagues games often outdrew the majors, and the talent gap that never existedLarry Doby and the different fight the American League's first Black player facedHow World War II shifted the country's willingness to integrate its pastimeResources & LinksNegro Leagues Baseball MuseumConnect with Bob Kendrick on:LinkedinTwitterTwo hundred fifty years in, America’s pastime still has a few chapters that are not told enough. Tune in. The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - - Americana, baseball, and the show's focus (00:43) - - Kansas City, birthplace of the Negro Leagues (01:36) - - Bob Kendrick on the leagues' history (02:12) - - North Dakota's early integration (03:07) - - Bismarck and Jamestown's integrated teams (05:27) - - The Bismarck-Jamestown rivalry (07:03) - - Teaching the discrimination players faced (11:20) - - How long the leagues lasted after integration (12:30) - - Team geography and migration patterns (14:13) - - The East-West All-Star Game (17:10) - - Segregation's overt and covert forms (18:10) - - Satchel Paige's legend and skill (20:22) - - WWII, Willie Mays, and Henry Aaron (21:20) - - Jackie Robinson's courage and burden (24:13) - - Hank Aaron's rise to stardom (25:50) - - Baseball as a unifying force (32:00) - - The museum's future and mission (33:50) - - Positional barriers in early integration (38:01) - - Roy Campanella and other Hall of Famers who started in the leagues (43:27) - - Visit the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum
Jul 1
46 min
Heidi Heitkamp Reflects on the Pool
For Heidi, the reflecting pool on the National Mall in D.C. is more than a tourist attraction; it's a metaphor for how Washington handles problems. Years of algae, cloudy water, and expensive repairs reflect a familiar pattern: ignore an issue until it becomes a crisis, then spend money on a temporary fix rather than addressing the underlying cause. She believes rural America has been treated the same way for decades.In this quick episode of The Hot Dish, Heidi talks about how low crop prices, tariffs, and bad policy keep hurting the people who actually farm the land. She also gives a peek at upcoming conversations with Joel.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject) (02:00) - - Metaphor of the reflecting pool and impulsive government decisions (04:30) - - Challenges of unqualified decision-making and resource management in rural infrastructure projects (07:00) - - Impact of national policies on rural economies and farmer communities (09:00) - - Importance of balanced political messaging and leadership recovery (11:15) - - Strategies for rural economic diversification beyond farming (14:00) - - Reflection on America's democracy and upcoming celebrations of the nation's founding (16:20) - - Closing remarks and optimism for future rural prosperity
Jun 24
7 min
These Policies Are Squeezing Farmers
Nick Levendofsky has spent years watching Washington write farm bills that land badly in the field. As director of the Kansas Farmers Union, he's tracked input costs climbing, cattle herds shrinking, and processing power concentrating into fewer hands, and he's done sugarcoating what that means.While Heidi is out this week, Joel sits down with Nick to work through where the farm bill actually stands, why the House version leaves too much on the table, and what trade wars cost rural markets long after the headlines move on.In this episode:Why the House farm bill misses on crop insurance, antitrust, and beginning farmersThe bipartisan math required to pass anything that actually sticksHow packers and processors have shifted market power away from producersWhat tariffs and trade disruptions do to rural markets over the long runThe structural problems no single bill can fix, and where the pressure points areResources & LinksKansas Farmers UnionConnect with Nick Levendofsky on:LinkedInThe farm bill keeps falling short, and farmers can't afford to wait. Tune in, get informed, and find out what real reform actually looks like.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - Overview of today's focus on U.S. farm policy challenges (02:00) - Current status of the farm bill and legislative prospects (03:00) - Why the House version falls short for farmers’ needs (04:45) - Critical issues: antitrust, beginning farmers, and safety nets (05:50) - Land transfers, farm retirements, and generational shifts (12:00) - The impact of past reconciliation cuts and nutrition programs (14:00) - Farmer reliance on federal aid versus trade-based income (15:46) - Concentration in meatpacking and input industries (20:12) - The efficacy of checkoff programs amid trade conflicts (22:30) - Challenges with U.S. trade policies, tariffs, and international markets (26:20) - Long-term outlook for market recovery and trust rebuilding (33:27) - The political landscape and farmers’ support for current leadership (36:31) - Reflections on football coaching ties and regional pride
Jun 17
37 min
Trump’s Dictator Playbook, with Ruth Ben-Ghiat
Buckle up, history buffs and democracy defenders. We're sitting down with Ruth Ben-Ghiat, professor of history and Italian studies at New York University, author of Strongman, and one of the leading experts on authoritarianism, to connect the dots between today's political chaos and the playbooks of history's most dangerous leaders. The parallels are less "ancient history" and more "this week's headlines," and Ruth is here to decode every one of them.Heidi and Joel also unpack the shifting electoral map, with a look at Senate battlegrounds, emerging gubernatorial contests, and what the current political climate means for voters heading into the next cycle.In this episode:How today's administration mirrors the tactics of historic autocratsThe anatomy of a cult of personality, and how they're builtThe "only I can do it" syndrome and why it resonatesThe TINA trap: why "There Is No Alternative" is so dangerousWhat the bunker mentality reveals about autocratic fearReligion, symbols, and grievance as tools of authoritarian powerThe warning signs of democratic erosion, and how fast it movesWhy American resilience may be the one thing autocrats can't plan forConnect with Ruth Ben-Ghiat on:        Twitter        Substack: LucidThe playbook for autocracy isn't buried in history books; it's playing out in real time. Tune in, get informed, and maybe think twice before you call this just another political phase.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject). (00:00) - Introduction to Ruth Ben-Ghiat's expertise on authoritarianism (00:01) - The unique and dangerous nature of today’s political threats (00:13) - The risks of loyalists and whether they can escape the grip of the cult (00:19) - The cult of personality, authoritarian playbook, and Trump’s messaging (00:23) - How Trump’s demagoguery compares to Mussolini and fascist archetypes (00:24) - The lasting legacy—how Trump’s era might be remembered forever (00:26) - The trajectory toward an ethno-state and the exploitation of wealth (00:28) - The challenge of former loyalists re-entering politics amid autocratic influence (00:35) - The impact of social progress and backlash, race, gender, and democracy (00:38) - The fears and vulnerabilities of autocrats like Trump—hidden bunker fears (00:39) - The uncharted and disturbing destruction of public health and welfare (00:42) - The changing landscape of election rules and the future of democracy (00:46) - The rapid speed of autocratic consolidation—Hungary, Russia, and beyond (00:46) - How policies are weaponized to transfer wealth and create division (00:46) - How autocrats boast confidence but tremble behind the scenes (00:52) - The costly mistake of intervening in foreign conflicts (00:57) - The autocratic “no alternative” syndrome and potential successors
Jun 10
51 min
Are AI's Magic Bean Promises Leading Rural America Down a Risky Path?
This episode pulls back the curtain on the AI gold rush, the data centers, the water bills, the NDAs, and what it all means for rural communities that rarely have a seat at the table.AI sounds like the future, but the costs are landing unevenly, especially outside major cities. Heidi and Joel join Dr. Emily Bender and Dr. Alex Hanna to dig into the real, and rarely discussed, toll of our digital infrastructure boom, from secretive corporate deals to environmental strain, and ask the question nobody in Silicon Valley wants answered: who actually pays the price?In this episode:The gap between AI hype and reality, and why it mattersData centers sprouting faster than the regulations meant to govern themThe true costs to energy, water, and local infrastructure that corporations aren't advertisingPublic resistance, NDA nightmares, and the political pressure to build fastWhy regulation hasn't kept pace and how communities are pushing backThe risks of AI overreliance, hallucinations, and why source-checking mattersWhere international regulation stands and the gap in U.S. policyGuests:Emily Bender - Twitter | University ProfileAlex Hanna’s WebsiteDAIR InstituteThe AI boom isn't slowing down, but neither are the people asking the hard questions. Tune in, get informed, and maybe think twice before you trust the hype.The Hot Dish is brought to you by the One Country Project. To learn more, visit OneCountryProject.org, or find us on Substack (Onecountryproject.substack.com), and on YouTube, Bluesky, and Facebook (@onecountryproject).
Jun 3
47 min
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