
Amar Kumar is the Founder and CEO of KaiPod Learning, a network of in-person microschools where students learn at their own pace, explore their passions, and develop their skills to take on the world. Amar has been working to improve education for students around the world for over 15 years.
In this episode, you’ll hear about Amar’s experience immigrating from India to America specifically for education, why he chose a career in education after studying engineering, and his experience launching KaiPod during the pandemic. The discussion also touches on the impact of the pandemic on education, the role of micro schools, ESAs, and the gradual shift towards personalized education.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Amar Kumar
2:58 - Moving to America for Amar’s Education
11:46 - What Makes American Education System Unique?
14:28 - When Amar Knew He Was Called to a Career in Education
20:17 - Creating Systemic Change in Education
24:43 - The Genesis of KaiPod
28:58 - What is the Job of School?
33:15 - How Does KaiPod Function?
42:40 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
43:55 - Allowing for Specificity in Education
48:11 - How Did the Pandemic Disrupt the Homeschool Movement?
57:50 - Who is Public School Right For?
59:31 - How Does an ESA work?
1:02:58 - Scaling KaiPod
1:09:19 - Why is Education So Slow to Evolve?
1:14:32 - How to Connect with Amar and How to Start a Microschool
1:15:35 - What Types of School’s Amar Helps Build
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Connect with Amar Kumar and KaiPod:
Website | https://www.kaipodlearning.com/
Twitter | https://twitter.com/amarkumaredu
LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kumaramar/
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Apr 11, 2024
1 hr 17 min

Kate, known online as Austin Scholar, is a teenage author writing about education in the 21st Century. Kate is a senior at Alpha High School in Austin, TX, where she started her newsletter, writing about her experience in alternative education and her advice to parents from a teenagers perspective.
In this episode, you’ll learn about the innovative and modern approach to education taking place at Alpha, how Kate’s education has shaped her teenage years and allowed her interests to blossom, the power of social media and technology for the future generation, and how parents can help support their kid’s entrepreneurial endeavors.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Austin Scholar
2:38 - The Genesis of Austin Scholar
4:43 - Creating a Brand Angle
7:54 - Evolution of Entrepreneurial Thinking
11:08 - The Super Power of Self Reflection
12:45 - Love for Writing and Reading
13:29 - Starting a Business as a Kid
19:31 - Starting a Substack at 15
28:17 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
29:34 - Teenagers and Social Media
36:53 - Using Social Media Effectively
41:33 - Developing Healthy Habits
47:37 - Reading For The Love of Reading
53:13 - Nurturing a Love for Poetry
58:58 - Pioneering a New Form of Alternative Education
1:02:39 - Advice to Parents
1:05:50 - What’s Next for Austin Scholar?
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Documentary Film on Cancer: A Food Borne Illness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1nltw3wZA
Why Your Teen Should Write on Twitter: https://austinscholar.substack.com/p/austin-scholar-43-why-your-teen-should
Connect with Austin Scholar:
Substack | https://austinscholar.substack.com
Twitter | https://twitter.com/AustinScholar
Kate’s Writing Course | https://www.equationbasedwriting.com/
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Apr 4, 2024
1 hr 10 min

Rachelle Noble is the co-founder of Microschool Solutions, an organization that helps people launch and operate microschools.
In this episode, you’ll learn about Rachelle’s story and personal experience with alternative education, how transformative microschools can be both for the students and adults, and how putting children first and taking them seriously can make all the difference.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
2:50 - Rachelle’s Childhood
12:15 - What is Microschool Solutions?
21:40 - Why Working in a Microschool is Healing
27:50 - Putting Children First
36:55 - Innovation in Education
41:50 - How Perceived Job Security Makes Teachers Less Effective
47:11 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
48:25 - The Power of Self Love
1:00:50 - How to Help Kids Feel Safe and Accepted (Medium)
1:15:15 - Navigating Bullying
1:24:30 - The Transformations Rachelle Has Seen in Microschool Kids
1:32:30 - Working with Microschool Solutions
1:36:10 - How to Connect with Rachelle and Microschool Solutions
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Connect with Rachelle Noble:
Website | https://microschool-solutions.com
Calendly link | https://microschool-solutions.com/dreamconversation
Microschool Solution’s founders circle | https://youtu.be/l4HqgOfOnn8
Founders’ Circle application | https://tally.so/r/mBXxa4
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Mar 28, 2024
1 hr 38 min

Chris Turner is the founder of Moonrise, a co-learning space in Atlanta providing a new type of childcare for families participating in homeschooling or alternative education.
In this episode you’ll learn about the origin of Moonrise, the plans for expansion, the regulations and roadblocks that stand in the way, and some of the philosophical ideas that are shaping Chris’s approach.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Chris Turner
2:42 - What is Moonrise?
12:10 - Why Don’t More Spaces like Moonrise Exist?
15:35 - Navigating the Legal Hurdles of Opening a Childcare Space
20:50 - Conforming to Regulatory Guidelines
27:50 - The Philosophy of Environment Design for Children’s Spaces
34:50 - Designing Better Schools
38:01 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
39:35 - Unbundling Education from Childcare
48:37 - The Best Learning Modalities for Moonrise
52:23 - Why Giving Kids Independence is So Important
55:08 - Taking Children Seriously
1:00:12 - Cultivating Creativity in Children
1:10:55 - How Chris Cultivated his Creativity
1:14:27 - The Challenge of Creating New Markets
1:20:23 - The Long Term Vision for Moonrise
1:23:08 - The Biggest Sales Bottlenecks for Moonrise
1:26:44 - Future Projections for Moonrise?
1:29:17 - How to Connect with Chris and Moonrise
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
The Beginning of Infinity - David Deutsch
Niche Down - Christopher Lochhead
Play Bigger - Christopher Lochhead
Connect with Chris Turner & Moonrise:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/_cturner
Website | https://www.moonrise.com
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Mar 21, 2024
1 hr 31 min

Carlos Carvalho is a professor of statistics at UT Austin and is the founder of the Salem Center, where he hosts guest lectures open to students and the general public.
In this episode, you’ll learn why the Salem Center lectures have become so controversial, how the academic standards have declined for college students, the importance of statistics, and why data is becoming more and more important in the world we live in today.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Carlos Carvalho
2:20 - What is Salem Center?
13:15 - Is Their a Purpose of College Beyond Signaling?
23:30 - How Can We Improve College?
32:00 - How to Optimize Learning
42:15 - Is College Outdated for the 21st Century
50:50 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
53:22 - Why is Our Data Literacy is So Bad?
1:09:00 - How Much Do College Freshman Know About the World?
1:16:10 - How Carlos Thinks About the Education of His Own Kids
1:23:00 - The Benchmarks of A Good Education
1:32:20 - Recommendations for Parents if They Want to Learn Statistics
1:35:40 - How to Connect with Carlos and Salem Center
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
The Case Against Education - Bryan Caplan
Factfulness - Hans Rosling
The Coddling of the American Mind - Jonathan Haidt, Greg Lukianoff
Naked Statistics - Charles Wheelan
Connect with Carlos Carvalho:
Website | https://salemcenter.org
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Mar 14, 2024
1 hr 37 min

Tim Kennedy is a former UFC Fighter, active Green Beret, and founder of Apogee. In the fall of 2024 he will be expanding Apogee to 50 schools across the country.
In this episode, you’ll learn why education is one of the biggest problems in America, how he’s moving a national movement of education and scaling it so quickly, and why the nuclear family is the foundation of America. Tim shares insights into his motivations to improve education in our country and his belief in empowering parents and families to take charge of their education.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
0:00 - Tim Kennedy
2:31 - Why Does a Soldier Start a School?
4:20 - The State of American Education: A Crisis in the Making
11:09 - Empowering Parents and Children
18:17 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
19:39 - The Journey of Apogee
23:01 - The Apogee Model: A New Approach to Education
26:15 - The Future of Apogee: Scaling and Expansion
35:02 - Tim’s Vision for Apogee
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Connect with Tim Kennedy:
Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/timkennedymma/
Website | https://timkennedy.com
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Mar 7, 2024
38 min

Kyle Kingsbury is a former Division 1 Football Player, UFC Fighter, and Unschooling dad of two. He is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to health and wellness and formerly worked as the Director of Human Optimization at Onnit in Austin, TX. Kyle is now building a regenerative ranching operation while unschooling his two kids on the farm.
In this episode, you’ll hear why Kyle decided to unschool his kids, the value of sports and athletics for children, and how Kyle finds balance between freedom and structure in parenting. You’ll also hear tips on how to raise your children holistically, help them develop their internal compass, and how to set up your environment in a way that fosters growth and curiosity.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
2:50 - How Fighting in the UFC Forced Kyle to Become Interested in Education
12:00 - How Kyle Found a New Motivation to Learn
20:03 - Public Education vs. Self Education
33:00 - Building a Foundation for Kids
36:10 - How Sports Can Still Exist Outside of Public School
46:50 - The Value of Individual Sports like Jujitsu
52:23 - Ad: John Galt Mortgage Company
53:23 - Independent Learning Styles for Different Kids
56:50 - Trusting the Inner Compass of Children
1:16:37 - Finding Balance Between Freedom and Structure in Parenting
1:30:20 - How To Build an Educational Foundation for Your Kids
1:38:20 - The Value of Rites of Passage for Boys
1:51:50 - How to Connect with Kyle
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Health and Light - John Ott
The Nourishing Traditions Book of Baby & Child Care - Sally Morell and Thomas Cowan
Deschooling Society - Ivan Illich
The Erotic and the Holy - Marc Gafni
Hardcore History - Dan Carlin
Sheepdog Response
Apogee
The Collapse of Parenting - Dr. Leonard Sax
Easy Strength - Dan John
Mastery - Robert Greene
Biggest Little Farm
How to Eat Move and Be Healthy - Paul Chek
Metamorphic Human Design
Bill Plotkin
Tim Corcoran
Of Water and Spirit - Malidoma Patrice Some
Soltara
Connect with Kyle Kingsbury:
Podcast | Kyle Kingsbury Podcast
Website | gardenersofeden.earthhttps:
Physically Fit Program https://fitforservice.com/pages/2024#physically-fit
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.
Feb 29, 2024
1 hr 55 min

Arjun Khemani is a 17 year old high school dropout who is currently working on Airchat with Naval Ravikant.
In this episode you’ll learn about Arjun’s educational experience in India and how he learned to leverage the internet to connect and work with his intellectual heroes. You’ll hear the story of how Arjun wrote 100 blog posts in 100 days before becoming involved in Airchat and beginning to work with Naval Ravikant. You’ll also hear why we should be taking kids more seriously and how to find success on an unconventional path.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
5:49 - Arjun’s Unique Education Journey and Departure from the Traditional Path
14:04 - Writing 100 Blog Posts in 100 Days
18:02 - Arjun’s Education Pre Covid
31:29 - The Power of the Internet and Meeting Intellectual Heroes
36:23 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
37:20 - The Story of Meeting and Working with Naval Ravikant
39:22 - Degrees of Connection
44:19 - The Superpower of Being Young
48:03 - Dropping Out of High School
53:59 - Taking Kids Seriously (Medium)
1:02:29 - How Much Autonomy Should Kids Have?
1:09:03 - How Can We Better Use the Internet?
1:17:09 - Being Cautious About Advice
1:21:52 - How to Connect with Arjun
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Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Rich Dad Poor Dad - Robert Kiyosaki
The Beginning of Infinity - David Deutsch
Breaking Smart - Vankatesth Rao
Deschooling Society - Ivan Illich
Connect with Arjun Khemani:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/arjunkhemani
Website | https://www.arjunkhemani.com
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Feb 22, 2024
1 hr 22 min

Lenore Skenazy was once branded as “America’s Worst Mom” for letting her nine year old son ride the subway alone. She is the founder of Free Range Kids and co-founder of Let Grow.
In this episode, you’ll learn how America became so risk averse. You’ll discover why we’ve become so afraid of letting our kids be independent, the developmental implications of blocking our kids from exploring the world, and why their capacity to take risks is so critical to becoming self-sufficient, confident adults.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Lenore Skenazy
1:47 - Free Range Kids
4:47 - The Argument Between Safety and Risk Taking
15:17 - The Delusion of Control
29:17 - Letting Kids Do Things on Their Own
30:42 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
31:47 - Starting Small When Allowing Autonomy
40:27 - The Psychological Effects of Coddling
47:17 - Building Anti Fragile Systems
51:47 - How Did We Become so Risk Adverse?
1:01:05 - How to Connect with Lenore’s Work
If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify
Resources Mentioned in this Episode:
Decline in Independent Activity as a Cause of Decline in Children's Mental Well-being
Connect with Lenore Skenazy:
Website | https://letgrow.org
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
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Feb 15, 2024
1 hr 5 min

Mitchell Earl is the COO of Praxis, a personal and professional development program for young adults.
In this episode you’ll learn Mitchell’s opinions on whether or not it’s important for a young person to go to college, How to think philosophically about your career and your life trajectory. You’ll also hear some great stories about Mitchell’s education, his start up career, and the lessons he learned along the way.
This episode is sponsored by John Galt Mortgage Company
https://www.johngaltmortgage.com
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
2:38 - Mitchell’s Journey Into Fatherhood
6:58 - The Collective Fear of Parenthood on Long-Term Planning
31:53 - Mitchell’s Education
41:43 - Pushback to Becoming to an Entrepreneur
47:32 - Sponsor: John Galt Mortgage Company
48:33 - Rehabilitating Our Love For Learning
54:38 - Mitchell's Role at Praxis
1:06:38 - Embracing Uncertainty and Betting On Yourself
1:23:08 - Early Career Advice
1:36:13 - Who Is the Right Fit For Praxis
1:42:13 - Praxis Success Stories
1:44:42 - How to Connect with Mitchell and Praxis
If You Enjoy This Show Please Subscribe and Give Us a 5-Star Rating ★★★★★ and Review on Apple Podcasts & Spotify
Connect with Mitchell Earl:
Website: https://mitchellearl.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Mitchell_Earl
Quora: https://www.quora.com/profile/Mitchell-Earl
Medium: https://medium.com/@Mitchell_Earl
Website: https://www.praxis.com
Email: [email protected]
Newsletter: https://discoverpraxis.com/playbook
Connect with Hannah Frankman:
Twitter | https://twitter.com/HannahFrankman
RebelEducator | https://twitter.com/rebelEducator
Website | http://hannahfrankman.com
Follow along for conversations on education, lifestyle, personal development, and freedom. All in ardent pursuit of a life well lived.
Feb 8, 2024
1 hr 46 min
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