Two mates. 25 years of friendship. Two very different paths. Both are fathers, husbands and sons who love sport, but that’s where the common ground ends. One is a 322 game AFL veteran, media personality, corporate speaker, and coach with a decorated list of sporting achievements – who fully appreciates that he has never had a “real job”. The other is a Chief Financial Officer with twenty years of finance, business and leadership experience both in Australia and abroad. Despite his best efforts, a lack of athletic ability has meant he has a less than successful amateur sporting record. Nick Dal Santo has a comprehensive Wikipedia page. Andrew Fitzpatrick does not. When it comes to sport, business, relationships or any other topic - there's no holds barred. The Hack and the Hero: from average to excellence in sport, business and life.