This episode follows Wayne Purdin's early UFO encounters, his years as a UFO investigator, and how those experiences eventually led him into meditation, devotional practice, and prophetic interpretation. Graham Dunlop and Darren Grimes press Wayne on the line between extraterrestrial contact and spiritual experience, especially around CE5, grays, and higher beings. Wayne's story centers on a 1967 sighting that he describes as a first contact experience, plus a later cigar-shaped craft sighting with multiple independent witnesses. From there, the conversation moves into his spiritual framework, his books, and his view that the coming years are tied to a possible evacuation, mitigation, or golden-age transition.   My website: https://wayne-purdin.com My blog:  https://wpurdin.wixsite.com/elixir/ My articles on Sungazing: Sun Meditation and Gazing to Experience the God Presence, Sun Yoga, Sun Gazing, Surya Namaskar My contributions to Sunlightenment.com: sunlightenment.com/?s=Purdin#google_vignette shakti-meditation.com Key topics Wayne says his first UFO sighting happened on June 5, 1967, during a regional blackout, and he describes a large craft with several bright lights as a Pleiadian ship. He says that during that sighting he prayed for guidance and received a telepathic message: "you will find a teacher." Wayne recounts a second sighting in September 1967 of a silent cigar-shaped craft near Waterford, Connecticut. He says the next morning he heard multiple corroborating cigar-shaped UFO reports on talk radio, including one report of a craft splitting in half and another involving a person in a shiny spacesuit. He explains his background with APRO and NICAP, saying he investigated newspaper sightings and interviewed witnesses with a large tape recorder. The conversation shifts into meditation and spiritual development, including Wayne's move away from UFO investigation and into Transcendental Meditation and later teaching. Wayne discusses a meditative near-death experience where he encountered the goddess Durga, described a dweller or personal demon blocking access, and said the obstacle was overcome through devotion and love. He draws a clear distinction between spiritual contact and extraterrestrial contact, arguing that devotion and consciousness determine what kind of beings someone attracts. Wayne says he believes his 1967 message about meeting a teacher was fulfilled decades later when he met Ananda Devi Ma, whom he identifies as a co-author and spiritual guide. The bulk of the episode focuses on his prophecy work, especially his book Twenty Thirty Five Golden Ageand his timeline centered on September 9 to 11, 2029. He explains three different methods he used to derive the date, including a calculation from his own visions, a Daniel prophecy reference, and patterns in the Jewish calendar. Wayne argues that the coming period could involve mass evacuation, tribulation, or mitigation depending on collective karma and prayer. Graham and Darren repeatedly challenge and clarify whether the prophecy is fixed, symbolic, or something that can still be changed by consciousness and preparation.   Become a Lord or Lady with 1k donations over time. And a Noble with any donation. Leave Serfdom behind and help Grimerica stick to 0 ads and sponsors and fully listener supported. 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[email protected] Purchase swag, with partial proceeds donated to the show: www.grimerica.ca/swag Send us a postcard or letter http://www.grimerica.ca/contact/ Episode ART - Napolean Duheme's site http://www.lostbreadcomic.com/ MUSIC https://brokeforfree.bandcamp.com/ - Something Galactic Felix's Site sirfelix.bandcamp.com - Should I             Timestamps 00:00— Wayne Purden's long history with UFOs and contact experiences 01:01— First sighting during the 1967 blackout and the Pleiadian ship 03:28— Telepathic message: "You will find a teacher" 04:24— Silent cigar-shaped craft and the Waterford sighting 06:20— Multiple witnesses call in matching reports on talk radio 08:55— APRO, NICAP, and early field investigations 13:13— Moving from UFO research into TM and spiritual practice 16:23— How Wayne calculates the September 2029 date 18:14— Daniel, tribulation, and the "uplift and transport" timeline 19:29— The "decade of the mouth" and prayer as preparation 21:43— The fire drill synchronicity and the idea of a warning 27:08— Why Wayne thinks prophecy can still be changed 29:15— Meditative near-death experiences and the higher realms 30:42— Meeting the dweller and overcoming it through love 35:46— Durga, the lion, and the throne room vision 37:25— Grays, abductions, and why Wayne sees them as extraterrestrial 40:09— Spiritual preparation before contact with ETs 42:27— Meeting the teacher foretold in 1967 43:26— The danger of astral deception in CE5-style contact 47:16— Shakti meditation versus TM and why he prefers heart-centered practice 49:46— Billy Meier's genuine early encounters and later hoaxes 51:20— Friendly versus unfriendly ETs and the role of prayer 52:15— Soma, spiritual fire, and energy produced by prayer 55:16— Karma, mitigation, and what may happen after 2029 56:37— The Mars generation, war, and humanity's fragile future 58:16— Where to find Wayne and his books               Wayne Purdin is an author, longtime UFO researcher, and spiritual teacher whose work explores the intersection of extraterrestrial contact, ancient spiritual traditions, prophecy, and human transformation. A former investigator for NICAP and APRO, Wayne reports his own UFO encounters and has spent decades studying Transcendental Meditation, the Ascended Masters, Sun Yoga, white magic, and the Divine Mother traditions of India. Over the past six years, he has written 17 books covering subjects ranging from sungazing and alternative healing to Akhenaten, Jesus and Mary Magdalene, near-death experiences, prophecy, and the spiritual symbolism of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. His current work focuses on humanity's transition through what he describes as the Tribulation and toward a coming Golden Age and higher-dimensional consciousness.