What happens when you start a business at 16 to pay rent after your father is killed, build a UFC career that wasn't even the original plan, and then turn everything you learned in the cage into a fight promotion, management company, and gym empire that's rewriting the path for the next generation? In this episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with Anthony "Showtime" Pettis, former UFC Lightweight Champion and one of the most electrifying fighters in MMA history, and his wife Lisette Pettis, entrepreneur, philanthropist, and the strategic force behind their growing business empire. From opening a taekwondo gym as a teenager out of necessity to becoming the first fighter ever featured on ESPN's Top 10 with the legendary "Showtime Kick," Anthony built a career most fighters only dream about. But the business started long before the fame and will carry on as he fights again this summer. Treating himself as a business from day one, shaped everything that followed. Lisette, with her philanthropic and marketing expertise is a critical component behind the couples success.Together, they launched a management company and APFC (Anthony Pettis Fighting Championship), a fight promotion giving up and coming fighters a real platform. And they're expanding globally with shows across the US, India, and Puerto Rico. This conversation breaks down what it actually takes to build multiple businesses while still competing at the highest level, how to negotiate when you're the product, why self funding saved them from expensive mistakes, and how they've structured their lives around discipline, partnership, and giving back to the community that raised them. Whether you're a UFC fan, navigating a career pivot, building a business from scratch, learning to negotiate your worth, or trying to figure out how to lead with care in a cutthroat industry, this episode proves that discipline, partnership, and staying grounded in your roots will always win. Guests: Anthony "Showtime" Pettis | Former UFC Lightweight Champion | Founder, APFC | Fighter Manager | Gym Owner IG: https://www.instagram.com/showtimepettis/ Lisette Pettis | Entrepreneur | Philanthropist | Founder, emPOWER YOUth Foundation and Cinderella Project | Co-Founder, APFC IG: https://www.instagram.com/uluvlisette/ Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation, an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners. Web: https://www.next-health.com/location/calabasas Blue Monkey Realty: https://www.bluemonkeyrealty.com/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. From the cage to the boardroom, building legacy through discipline and partnership. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:46 From Tragedy to Business: Starting at 16 00:03:33 The Accidental Fighter: Business First, UFC Second 00:05:04 Building the Path: Creating Infrastructure for Future Fighters 00:07:43 The Management Problem: No Regulations, No Requirements 00:09:03 The Power Couple Dynamic: Business Partnership and Marriage 00:32:25 Learning to Say No: Setting Boundaries and Long-Term Thinking 00:28:05 The Fighter Mindset: Discipline, Obsession, and Mental Toughness 00:34:57 Building a Brand: Social Media and Personal Branding for Fighters 00:53:57 Self-Funded Success: Why Bootstrapping Saved Their Business 01:13:46 The Showtime Kick and Career Highlights 01:12:07 What's Next: 2026 Vision and Global Expansion

What happens when the skills you spent years undervaluing turn out to be someone else's competitive advantage? In this episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with Munir Haque, President of Cure8, a cybersecurity and IT firm operating in one of the most complex, fast-moving industries in America: cannabis. From graffiti artist to touring musician to retail leader designing stores selling to the Saudi Royal family, Munir had built a career most people would kill for. He was running the best store in the country, making more money than ever, and then one day he couldn't look in the mirror anymore. So he quit. The same week he was about to propose to his wife. A buddy called with one question: We're about to build the first legal dispensary in Canada. Do you want in? Munir said yes before he had a plan. Today, he runs a 24/7 operation in a market that rewrites itself overnight, navigating constantly shifting state regulations, building stores from blueprints to ribbon cutting, and solving problems most IT companies never touch. And he built his entire company on one hiring filter that has nothing to do with code: You can teach a firewall. You cannot teach empathy. This conversation breaks down what it actually takes to pivot into an entirely new industry with zero technical background, lead through constant regulatory chaos, and build a team culture rooted in transparency, collaboration, and celebration in a space where mistakes can shut down entire facilities. This episode explores: How creativity and customer experience design translate into completely different industries The brutal reality of quitting at the height of your success because you can't look in the mirror anymore Understanding your skills are someone’s competitive advantage and how to transfer them What it's like to pivot careers with a steep learning curve ahead and Google as your best friend Why empathy is the one skill you can't teach and the hiring filter that built his entire team Navigating markets where regulations change overnight Building a leadership culture rooted in transparency, open communication, and celebrating every win Why success shifted from hitting KPIs to helping clients cut the ribbon and generate revenue Whether you're navigating a career pivot, leading through constant change, building culture in a high pressure regulated environment, or trying to figure out how to leverage skills you think don't translate, this episode proves skills are absolutely transferrable in different industries. Guest: Munir Haque | President of Cure8 | Cybersecurity & IT Expert | Cannabis Industry Leader IG: https://www.instagram.com/munirhaque/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. The skills you already have are someone else's competitive advantage. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:34 The Retail Years: Success, Checked Out and Walking Away 00:03:03 The Leap: Jumping With No Safety Net 00:04:39 Where Creativity Meets Technology: Designing A User Experience 00:08:42 Building the Circle: Leadership Through Collaboration and Transparency 00:20:01 You Can Teach a Firewall, You Cannot Teach Empathy 00:25:22 Constant Pivoting: Navigating Regulatory Chaos and Market Changes 00:42:02 Social Equity Programs: The Promise and the Pitfalls 00:48:54 Cybersecurity in Cannabis: Phishing, Breaches, and Data Protection 00:51:37 24/7 Operations: Managing Mistakes in a Zero-Error Industry 00:55:37 Redefining Success: From KPIs to Hugs and Tears

What does it take to lead when one mistake could define your entire career? In this episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with North Las Vegas Mayor Pamela Goynes-Brown, Nevada's first Black mayor, who is rebuilding North Las Vegas from economic collapse while facing scrutiny most leaders will never experience. From classroom teacher to running a city, Mayor Goynes-Brown shares her leadership journey from never planning to attend college to becoming to ultimately becoming the elected mayor in 2022. This conversation breaks down what it actually takes to lead under pressure when the stakes are impossibly high and the margin for error is nonexistent. This episode explores: Why being the first means you're always expected to be better but can only be yourself The invisible pressure of being watched and waiting for you to fail How to shut down disrespectful meetings and set boundaries without losing authority Managing a 24/7 job that never turns off and learning when your body says no more The brutal reality of campaign fundraising and learning to ask for funding without flinching Strategies for rebuilding and recognizing not all partners are the right partners to fulfill the vision Why controlling your own narrative matters when negative press comes your way Why representation matters to build trust and confidence Building culture around morale, family first policies, and making employees feel valued The advice from the President that changed how she approached leadership transitions Whether you're navigating leadership under a microscope, building culture in a high pressure environment, managing toxic players or trying to figure out how to stay positive when people are waiting for you to fail, this episode offers unfiltered truth about public service, representation, and rewriting the rules on leadership under pressure. Guest: Mayor Pamela Goynes-Brown | Nevada's First Black Mayor | Mayor of North Las Vegas Web:https://www.cityofnorthlasvegas.com/our-city/city-council/mayor IG: https://www.instagram.com/pagoynes/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Leading under pressure. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:38 From Music Teacher to Public Servant: An Unexpected Journey 00:06:22 The Campaign Trail: Fundraising and Finding Your Voice 00:10:09 Building a Communications Strategy and Controlling the Narrative 00:12:29 Executing on Campaign Promises: Economic Growth and Community Development 00:14:18 Representation Matters: Building a Diverse Workforce 00:19:23 The Reality of Leadership: Managing Stress, Setting Boundaries, and Staying Positive 00:36:26 Creating City Culture: Morale, Family First, and Employee Wellbeing 00:45:29 The Pressure of Being First: Leading as Nevada's First Black Mayor 00:50:04 Downtown Reimagined: Project Sparkle and Building Community Gathering Spaces 00:56:16 Advice for Aspiring Leaders and Defining Success

What happens when the institutions you devoted your career to building up were never actually built for you — and the only way forward is to admit the invisible labor is crushing you, the burnout is real, and rest isn't weakness, it's resistance? In this raw and unfiltered episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with Dr. Zaibis Muñoz-Isme and Dr. Alicia Bates, two scholar practitioners who built careers in higher education to change things from the inside. There struggles in higher education mirror professionals navigating today’s corporate culture. From navigating the brutal reality of being the only Latina or Black woman in senior leadership to the invisible labor of mentoring every student of color who walks through your door without it counting toward tenure or promotion, to the breaking point where you realize the institution recruited you for diversity but built zero infrastructure to retain you, this conversation unpacks what it actually costs to show up every day in spaces that weren't built for you. This episode explores: Why your career feels like a toxic relationship that doesn't love you back The invisible labor of being the go-to person without recognition or compensation How institutions spend money recruiting women of color but build no infrastructure to retain them Why COVID exposed the true colors of colleagues and forced impossible choices between grief, work, and survival The reality that to move up in your career you almost always have to move out How Gen Z is teaching millennials about boundaries, rest, and redefining success Why FMLA and rest without regret should be normalized, not stigmatized The truth about being thanked for "coordinating" when you actually did all the work How success shifted from climbing the ladder to investing in family, community, and a calm nervous system Whether you're navigating burnout, trying to figure out if it's time to stay or go, reconciling with the fact that the job you worked so hard for isn't reciprocating opportunities or redefining what success means when your nervous system is screaming for rest, this episode offers unvarnished truth about identity, labor, and what it takes to survive when the system was never designed with you in mind. Guests: Dr. Zaibis Muñoz-Isme | Scholar Practitioner | https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaibis/ Dr. Alicia Bates | Scholar Practitioner | https://www.linkedin.com/in/draliciabates/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Navigating invisible labor, burnout, and rest as resistance in higher education. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:52 Meet Dr. Zaibis Muñoz-Isme and Dr. Alicia Bates 00:04:20 The Semester at Sea Effect: Finding Your Path 00:08:50 Living in Qatar and Moving for Career Growth 00:10:53 Grief, Loss, and Navigating COVID While Working 00:15:13 The Current DEI Landscape: Doing the Work Without the Words 00:23:39 The Invisible Labor of Women of Color in Higher Ed 00:21:53 The 24/7 Reality: Retention, Boundaries, and Burnout 00:40:07 COVID Revealed True Colors: Navigating Unprecedented Loss 00:42:00 Learning Boundaries from Gen Z 00:45:20 The Leadership Gap: Why Millennials Are Leaving Higher Ed 00:48:36 When Do You Stay and When Do You Go? 00:54:29 Rest as Resistance: FMLA, Stigma, and Taking Time 01:02:20 Redefining Success: From Titles to Time with Family 01:10:35 What Gives Us Hope: Students and the Next Generation

What happens when the entertainment industry you built your career in starts cannibalizing itself — and the only way forward is to admit the models are broken, the ecosystem is collapsing, and no one knows what comes next? In this raw and unfiltered episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron unpack the seismic shifts happening across Hollywood as major studios face potential acquisitions, mass layoffs, and an existential reckoning with streaming, AI, and the rise of platforms like YouTube that are quietly eating everyone's lunch. From the looming Warner Bros. acquisition by Paramount to the brutal reality that severance packages won't save you when the competition for jobs doubles overnight, this conversation breaks down what's really happening behind the headlines — and what it means for the thousands of professionals who are about to be displaced. This episode explores: Why this moment feels like the 2008 global financial crisis for entertainment professionals The hard truth about severance packages and why employees with five years or less should start looking now How production has essentially stopped and creative work has stalled across the industry Why AI generated content is accelerating job displacement faster than anyone expected The challenge of building new media companies when the business models are shifting too fast to predict How streaming platforms are reverting back to the cable model — ads, weekly releases, and all Why YouTube is the dark horse no one saw coming and what that means for traditional studios The reality that there's no organized pipeline for displaced professionals to transition into the creator economy Why this isn't one massive layoff but death by a thousand cuts — and how to prepare Whether you're navigating uncertainty in your industry, facing a restructuring in real time, or trying to figure out what comes next when the ecosystem you relied on is fundamentally changed, this episode offers unvarnished truth about disruption, displacement, and what your options are to move forward. Because when the world as you know it looks completely different, the only option is to adapt or get left behind. Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/theexitinterview_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Navigating the collapse and reinvention of Hollywood. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:00 The Entertainment Industry's Financial Crisis Moment 00:01:13 Warner Bros Under Threat: What Employees Should Do Now 00:01:46 The Severance Reality: Washington Post as a Blueprint 00:03:03 Production Has Stopped: The Creative Drought 00:03:34 Why Breaking Off and Starting Small Media Companies Is So Hard 00:05:34 AI-Generated Content: The Four-Minute Trailer That Changes Everything 00:06:12 The Consultant Path: Pivoting to the Creator Economy 00:06:57 Creativity Will Always Find a Way 00:07:58 The Future of Theatrical: IMAX and the Sinners Effect 00:09:22 Streaming Becomes Cable: The Full Circle Moment 00:11:09 YouTube: The Dark Horse Eating Everyone's Lunch 00:13:33 The Organized System Is Gone: No Clear Path Forward 00:14:49 Death by a Thousand Cuts: The Rolling Layoff Crisis 00:16:38 Paramount vs Warner Bros: The Brand Mismatch

What if the system designed to keep you healthy… was never built for health at all? In this episode of The Exit Interview | On Air, Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with Dr. Darshan Shah—board-certified surgeon, longevity expert, and founder of Next Health—who pivoted from traditional western medicine after it nearly destroyed his own health. After decades in high-stress surgery, Dr. Shah found himself overweight, diabetic, and burned out—despite being at the top of his field. What he discovered next challenges everything we think we know about healthcare, stress, and longevity. This conversation breaks down: Why Western medicine treats disease—not health The real reason high performers are burning out physically How stress (and cortisol) is silently driving chronic illness What functional medicine actually is—and why it’s growing fast The “CEO of your health” framework every ambitious person needs Simple shifts that can reverse long-term damage If you’re navigating career pressure, burnout, or a major life transition—this episode will change how you think about your health. Because in the Intelligence Age, performance isn’t just mental—it’s biological. Guest: Dr. Darshan Shah | Board Certified Surgeon | Physician | Longevity Specialist | Founder of Next Health IG: https://www.instagram.com/darshanshahmd/ Pod: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/extend-podcast-with-darshan-shah-md/id1773578243 Web: https://www.drshah.com/biomarkers Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation — an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners.Web:https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills Opus Clip: https://www.opus.pro/?via=827891 Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. The truth about success no one tells you: your health is the asset. Chapters 00:00:00 “Doctors Don’t Learn Health” 00:01:26 Meet Dr. Darshan Shah (Surgeon → Founder of Next Health) 00:02:40 The Breaking Point: Burnout, Diabetes & 20 Years in Surgery 00:04:45 Why Doctors Are Unhealthy (And No One Talks About It) 00:08:34 Western Medicine Is Reactive, Not Preventative 00:11:37 What Is Functional Medicine? 00:15:47 How He Reversed His Own Chronic Disease 00:18:41 “Leaky Gut” Explained Simply 00:19:57 Hormone Therapy: Biggest Misunderstanding in Medicine 00:22:45 Stress Is the Root of Most Disease 00:24:20 The 30–40 Minute Rule That Changes Everything 00:28:00 Why “Grinding” Is Wrecking Your Health 00:30:20 Exercise Snacks: High-Performer Hack 00:32:49 Be the CEO of Your Own Health 00:34:50 The Health Metrics You Should Be Tracking 00:38:47 How to avoid misinformation and noise 00:43:35 How Stress Impacts Your Longevity

Emmy Award-winning actor Lamorne Morris — best known as Winston on New Girl and for his Emmy-winning role in Fargo — sits down with hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron on The Exit Interview | On Air to share one of Hollywood's most earned success stories. From growing up on the South Side of Chicago, getting cut from his high school basketball team, and discovering comedy at Second City, to landing in LA with literally negative $11 in his bank account — Lamorne's path to Hollywood was anything but straight. In this episode we cover: How a repossessed car and a borrowed ride led to booking five national commercials in one week Why the casting director for New Girl discovered him through a Microsoft commercial shot in Budapest The difference between improvising on New Girl versus sticking to the script on Fargo His Emmy win, imposter syndrome, and what real success actually means to him Why he believes there is no cheat code — only passion, patience, and showing up Whether you're building a career, pivoting industries, or just trying to figure out your next move — Lamorne's story is proof that the most extraordinary careers rarely follow a straight line. Guest: Lamorne Morris | Emmy Award-Winning Actor | New Girl, Fargo, Spider Noir, Jumanji and more IG: https://www.instagram.com/lamorne/ Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation — an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners.Web:https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills Opus Clip: https://www.opus.pro/?via=827891 Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Redefining success from negative $11 to Emmy winner. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:02:45 From Chicago to Second City: Finding the Clown Within 00:07:13 The BET Hosting Gig and Moving to New York 00:08:30 Struggling in LA: Living in Cars and Finding Community with Award Winning Artists 00:12:00 The Commercial Breakthrough: From Negative $11 to Six Figures 00:13:35 Landing New Girl: The Commercial That Changed Everything 00:13:59 Developing Winston: The Power of Weird and Endearing 00:17:40 The Emmy Moment: Fargo and Fighting Imposter Syndrome 00:22:09 From Comedy to Drama: Working with Noah Hawley on Fargo 00:29:43 The Tyrese Story and Dating in Hollywood 00:38:37 Podcasting and New Girl's Lasting Legacy 00:47:32 Character Development: From Instinct to Inspiration 00:51:31 Fatherhood and Career Choices: Prioritizing Family-Friendly Roles 00:59:29 Redefining Success: Freedom Over Fame

In this bonus episode, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron get the inside scoop from top Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon Dr. Stuart Linder. Known as the body contouring specialist, Dr. Linder has spent nearly three decades mastering breast surgery, body sculpting, and educating the public on plastic surgery. Dr. Linder shares his journey of specialization and how he became one of the most sought-after breast surgeons in the country, completing thousands of surgeries. Dr. Linder shares 2026 trends, raw truths about materials, surgery and the results. Plus, why BBLs (Brazilian Butt Lifts) are one of the most dangerous cosmetic surgeries and why board certification with the American Board of Plastic Surgery, accredited surgical centers, and board certified anesthesiologists are non negotiable. Whether you're considering breast implants, explantation, fat grafting, a mommy makeover, or just trying to understand what body contouring is all about, this episode will explain all of it. Guest: Dr. Stuart Linder | Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon | Body Contouring & Breast Surgery Specialist IG: https://www.instagram.com/drstuartlinder/ Web: https://www.drlinder.com/ Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Mastering body contouring with experience and judgment. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:48 From Facial Surgery to Body Specialist: Finding Your Niche 00:02:41 Breast Implant Trends 2026: Smaller Is the New Bigger 00:03:09 The Explant Movement: Why Women Are Removing Implants 00:05:19 Implant Profiles Explained: High vs Moderate Projection 00:06:05 Fat Grafting to Breasts: The Serial Approach 00:07:16 Silicone vs Saline: Understanding Implant Materials 00:08:57 Implant Rupture and Lifespan: What You Need to Know 00:11:31 Post-Surgery Maintenance: The Bra Myth Debunked 00:13:00 BBL Safety Concerns and Hip Dip Alternative 00:14:17 Mommy Makeover Reality: Scars vs Results 00:15:16 Choosing Your Surgeon: The Essential Checklist

Dr. Stuart Linder and Blake Linder prove that being a public figure across two generations isn’t about chasing visibility — it’s about passion, mastery of your craft, and knowing when to evolve from the platform that made you famous to the project that will define your legacy. In this episode, hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron sit down with the father-son duo who built public platforms in radically different eras. Dr. Stuart Linder, a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon, broke into broadcast television when it was taboo for doctors to appear in media. Through appearances on MTV’s I Want a Famous Face, Discovery Channel, and The Dr. Oz Show, he educated millions about plastic surgery — even before his colleagues were onboard. His son Blake Linder broke into the creator economy before it even had a name. At just 14 years old, he built a global following on YouTube, creating vlogs and sneaker videos that gave him global fame as a teenager. But with the audience came the realities of growing up in the public eye — hate comments, death threats, and the pressure of always being “on.” Together they unpack the invisible tax of public visibility — the fan love, the relentless criticism, and the responsibility that comes with influence and how to leverage the experience to build a future legacy together. At the height of his YouTube success, Blake stepped away from the platform to pursue filmmaking, studying at Chapman Dodge College of Film and Media Arts and USC’s Cinematic Arts program. Today, he and his father have launched Linder Productions and are developing their first feature film. This episode explores fame, the creator economy, career pivots, and the discipline required to build something meaningful across generations and to always bet on yourself. Guests: Dr. Stuart Linder | Beverly Hills Plastic Surgeon | Celebrity Doctor & Media Pioneer | Founder, Linder Productions IG: https://www.instagram.com/drstuartlinder/ Web: https://www.drlinder.com/ Blake Linder | Former YouTube Star | Director & Founder, Linder Productions IG: https://www.instagram.com/blakelinder/ Web: https://www.linderproductions.com/ Sponsors: Next Health (Code: Exit) first baseline blood test and consultation — an $850 value for only $250, exclusively for our listeners.Web:https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills Opus Clip: https://www.opus.pro/?via=827891 Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron IG: https://www.instagram.com/shana_onair/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/cameroncareercoaching/ Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. Navigating fame, passion, and reinvention across two generations. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:03:36 The Celebrity Doctor: Breaking Into Broadcast Before It Was Mainstream 00:09:40 The YouTube Phenomenon: From Sneakers to Millions of Fans at 14 00:10:45 The St. Barts Breakthrough: Going Viral and Building a Following 00:14:56 Staying Humble: Fan Love, Death Threats, and the Steph Curry Lesson 00:17:59 Motivational Talks and Giving Back: Using the Platform for Good 00:20:25 Managing Hate and Protecting Family: The Dark Side of Fame 00:27:29 The Transition to Film: From YouTube to Chapman Dodge Film School 00:29:39 The Xavier Story: Using Influence to Change Lives 00:33:29 Founding Linder Productions: Father and Son Launch a Film Company 00:38:34 Father Figure: The First Feature Film and Proof of Concept 00:40:29 The Horror Genre: Why Gore, Low Budgets, and Cult Followings Work 00:48:16 The Farm: The Next Big Project and Building a Legacy 00:46:19 Advice for First-Time Filmmakers: Craft, Presence, and the Pure Moment 00:49:57 Passion Over Pressure: Why Following Your Calling Matters

The beauty tax isn't just about makeup and heels — it's the invisible extra hour women spend preparing to command authority in rooms where appearance determines whether you're heard or dismissed. Hosts Shana Ayabe and Kisha Imani Cameron dive into one of the most unspoken yet universal experiences in professional women's lives: the presentation tax that comes with showing up to board meetings, C-suite presentations, and high-stakes rooms where your credibility is measured before you even open your mouth. From the brutal reality that looking polished isn't optional when you're trying to be taken seriously, to the strategic calculation of heels, sleek hair, and flawless makeup that becomes part of the performance, to the menopause wake-up call that hits overnight with weight gain and hot flashes nobody warns you about, they unpack why women navigate an entirely different set of expectations around appearance, aging, and authority — and how to survive it without losing yourself in the process. Nothing is off limits including hormone therapy, GLP-1s, Botox, skincare and more. Hosts: Shana Ayabe x Kisha Imani Cameron Produced by: Grace Media Digital The Exit Interview | On-Air — Real conversations. The unspoken tax women pay for corporate authority. If you’re dealing with hormone imbalances, hot flashes, or just not feeling like yourself, it may be time to check your hormone levels. Visit NextHealth Calabasas https://www.next-health.com/location/woodland-hills for advanced hormone testing and personalized hormone therapy designed to help you feel balanced, energized, and like yourself again. Chapters 00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:07 The Presentation Tax: Extra Hours Women Spend Preparing 00:00:47 The Menopause Wake-Up Call: HRT and Hormones 00:01:38 Skincare Secrets 00:02:36 The Botox Debate: Needles, Fear, and Alternatives