The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude
The Evil Tester Show - Software Testing and Development with Attitude
Alan Richardson - Software Testing and Development Consultant
Software Testing expertise for everyone. This software testing podcast helps developers, testers, managers, Product and QA professionals understand and improve their software testing and development approach. Software Testing is a skill that can be treated as a specialism or developed as part of a broader Software Development Role. This podcast helps everyone their skills in Test Management, Risk Management, Unit Testing, Test Techniques, Architecture and Development. The show covers topics like: Software Testing, Exploratory Testing, Test Automation, Test Management, Software Development and Programming. Hosted by Alan Richardson, an experienced Software Developer and Consultant, we cover Software Testing and Development from a practical and experience based viewpoint. Occasional special guests bring their expertise and experience to help listeners improve their Software Testing and Development processes.
AI and Software Testing - Evil Tester meets Tech League
A joint episode with the Tech League podcast. A Super Group podcast team up. Alan Richardson speaks to Toby Sears and Krisztian Fischer about AI and Testing. This episode is also available as a YouTube video on the Tech League channel, full details in the full show notes link.
Apr 10
1 hr 9 min
Agentic AI Software Testing and Development with Dragan Spiridonov
This podcast episode is a chat with Dragan Spiridonov who created the Agentic QE fleet. Agentic AI for Quality Engineering. It can work with code, or websites. We will explore Agentic AI, what it means, and how to use it to improve your Software Development and Testing. Also introduce the Agentic QE Fleet and how it augments Claude Code and Claude Flow. We cover: - Introduce Dragan Spiridonov and his work - Introduce Agent Based Testing and Development - Introduce and explain Agentic QE tooling - Explain difference between Agentic QE tooling and Base Claude - How has working on this changed Dragan's view of his skillsets and role - How to learn: AI, Agentic AI, Agentic QE? - Lessons learned from building and using AI that we can apply to any AI tooling - Future of Agentic QE Tooling - Future of AI in Testing and Development Links: - https://forge-quality.dev/ - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dragan-spiridonov/ - https://spiridonovdragan.com/ - https://agentic-qe.dev/ - Overview of Agentic Quality Engineering Fleet: Revolutionizing Software Testing with AI Agents https://video.agentics.org/media/t/1_htfe35tu/370465892 - https://quantum-qe.dev/ - https://github.com/proffesor-for-testing/agentic-qe - https://github.com/ruvnet/claude-flow - https://agentics.org/  - for video archive https://video.agentics.org
Feb 12
57 min
AI Optimism and Pessimism
Based on my experience with AI, am I optimistic or pessimistic. I gain huge value from AI during development, but have I managed the same in Testing? And how will the Tester role change, what do we need to do to adapt? I look forward to learning more and describe my next steps. 00:00 - Introduction: Am I an AI Optimist or Pessimist? 02:16 - AI, Jobs, and Management Excuses 06:33 - How AI Changes Our Roles 10:49 - Human Connection vs. AI: Where I Refuse to Use It 16:27 - Building and Using AI Tools for Programming 22:46 - Automation, Testing, and the Human Factor 28:21 - The Future: Agentic AI, Fundamentals, and Looking Forward
Dec 19, 2025
24 min
Mastering Automatability for Test Automation
The answers given during a Browserstack Community AMA session held on Discord on the 11th of December 2025, following a live LinkedIn video stream. The session focused on "Mastering Automatability for Test Automation". The main theme is the concept of Automatability, which I view as the ability to automate, this personal skill is more critical than reliance on specific tools. The discussion covers various topics, including how to separate automation problems from application design issues, dealing with slow UIs and non-automation friendly third-party widgets, evaluating automation readiness, and addressing common architectural failings related to large-scale UI automation. 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:27 key early lesson about automatability?   00:01:56 separating automation issues vs. design issues?   00:03:49 is slow UI a testability or automatability problem?   00:06:50 handling non-automatable third-party widgets?   00:09:20 assessing automation readiness - any framework?   00:11:23 common architectural patterns that break at scale?   00:13:37 prioritizing testability vs. automation in sprints?   00:16:51 do modern tools reduce the need for good design?   00:19:32 explaining automatability as an investment?   00:21:44 how do AI agents handle dynamic/third-party elements?   00:23:17 early signs a feature will be flaky when automated?   00:26:10 which microservice layers to automate first?   00:29:16 high-ROI automatability fixes for small budgets?   00:30:55 early dev–test collaboration to prevent rework?   00:34:08 thinking about automatability in continuous delivery? Join the BrowserStack Discord community and discover more AMA sessions https://www.browserstack.com/community
Dec 12, 2025
42 min
Test Code Migration not Test Cases
Should you use AI to help you migrate test automation code? And what should you actually migrate, the tests coverage hasn't changed. In this episode we discus show abstractions and AI can be used to migrate... and discuss when you shouldn't. Welcome to The Evil Tester Show! In this episode, host Alan Richardson dives into the complex world of test automation migrations. Have you ever wondered what it really takes to move your automated test execution code from one tool or language to another—like switching from WebDriver to Playwright, or migrating from Java to TypeScript? Alan breaks down the pitfalls, challenges, and best practices you need to consider before taking the leap. He explains why migrating isn’t just about copying test cases, how abstraction layers can save you time and headaches, and why using AI and solid design principles can streamline your transition. Whether you’re facing unsupported tools, evolving frameworks, or strategic changes in your testing approach, this episode offers practical advice to plan and execute a seamless migration—without burying new problems beneath old ones. 00:00 Migration Challenges 02:43 Tool Evaluation 04:05 Migrating to Playwright: Considerations 06:00 Migration Process 06:25 Migrate: Easy First, Hardest Next 09:37 Effective Migration Strategies for Tests 10:23 Focusing Abstractions 14:39 Optimize Test Code Migration 15:44 Focus on Abstraction, Not Auto-Healing **1. Why Migrate—And When You Really Shouldn’t** Before any big move, Alan urges teams to get their “why” straight. Is your current tool unsupported? Is your framework truly incompatible, or are you missing some hidden potential? Migrate for the right reasons and make sure your decision isn’t just papering over problems that could follow you to the next tool. **2. Don’t Confuse Migration with a Rewrite** Too many teams treat migration like a rewrite—often with disastrous results. Alan emphasizes the importance of planning ahead, solving existing flakiness and coverage issues _before_ you move, and carefully evaluating all options (not just the shiny new tool you think you want). **3. The Secret Weapon: Abstraction Layers** The podcast’s biggest takeaway: Don’t migrate “test cases”—migrate _abstractions_. If your tests are full of direct calls like `webdriver.openPage()`, you’ve got work to do. Build out robust abstraction layers (think page objects or logical user flows) and keep your tests clean. When it comes time to migrate, you’ll only need to move those underlying layers, not thousands of individual test case scripts. **4. Taming Flakiness and the Risks of Retries** Migration is not the time to rely on self-healing tests or retries. Any test flakiness _must_ be rooted out and fixed before porting code. Bringing instability into a new stack only multiplies headaches later. **5. Harnessing AI—But Stay in Control** AI-assisted migration really shines at mapping old code to new, but Alan warns against “agentic” (hands-off) approaches. Use AI as a powerful tool, not as the driver—you need understanding and control to ensure things work reliably in CI/CD pipelines. **6. Learn Fast: Tackle the Hardest Stuff Early** Pro tip: Once you’re ready, start your migration with the simplest test, just to get going—then dive into the hardest, flakiest, most complex workflows. You’ll uncover potential blockers early and kick-start team learning. “We’re not migrating test cases when we change a tool. We’re migrating the physical interaction layer with our application... ”
Oct 7, 2025
17 min
Building a Job-Hunting Portfolio for Software Development and Testing
Should you have an online portfolio showcasing your Software Development and Testing skills to help get a job? It really depends on the recruitment process. But... if I'm recruiting, and you have a profile then I will have looked at it. So it better be good. Most Software Developers and Testers don't have public portfolios so that means you can really stand out. We'll cover the difference between different types of projects: A breakdown of project types: Learning Projects, Personal Projects, Portfolio Projects. Lots of tips on how to adjust your Github profile and promote your projects. 00:00 Value of Portfolio 02:59 Stand Out Skills 09:19 Project Types 12:27 Showcase Projects 19:39 Promoting Yourself 21:44 Final Advice
Sep 18, 2025
23 min
Respect in Software Testing and Development
Software Testing deserves respect. Doesn't it? But so does every role in Software Development: managers, testers, QA, programmers, Product, Everyone. This is for you. Ever feel like you’re not getting the respect that you deserve in your job? This episode dives deep into the topic of Respect in tech, especially focusing on software testing versus programming. We look at why some roles seem to earn more respect, what that means for workplace culture, and how you can change things for yourself and your team. Respect isn’t just about manners or titles - it’s about how the system works and how we show up in our roles. If you’ve worked in agile projects, you might have heard, "Everyone is a developer." But some roles seem to get more recognition than others. Is this because of how we define our jobs, or is it just baked into the way our workplaces run? This episode is a call to action, urging everyone to look at respect both at a personal, process and craft level. We’re breaking down the difference between self-respect, respect for others, and respect built into your team’s process. You'll see why just doing your job isn’t enough. You have to own your craft, communicate what you do, and make your contributions visible to earn genuine respect. By the end of this episode, you'll have practical steps to make respect part of your daily work, whether you’re writing code, testing, building products, or managing. 00:00 Respect Dilemma 02:41 Human Level Respect 06:31 Self-Respect First 10:17 Respect Cycle 15:37 Knowledge Sharing 18:53 Respectful Organizations 21:26 Final Thoughts
Sep 6, 2025
21 min
Software Testing Strategy vs Planning The Strategy Episode
Software Testing typically confuses a Test Strategy Document with the process of strategising. Alan Richardson simplifies the over complicated world of test strategy. Drawing on years of experience creating test strategies and plans, Alan explains the real difference between strategy, approach, and plan. Explaining that what really matters isn’t following templates or writing elaborate documents, but actually thinking through problems, understanding risks, and communicating those ideas clearly.
Aug 7, 2025
29 min
Software Testing Job Market with Jack Cole
Are you trying to figure out how to break into the software testing job market or make your next big move? This episode of the Evil Tester Show dives deep into the realities of tech recruitment, job search strategies, and career planning for testers - with recruitment veteran Jack Cole from WEDOTech.uk - Whether you're an experienced Test manager, expert Tester, junior QA or even a programmer, Jack’s decades of Software Testing and Development industry experience will give you strategies and tips about what works in today’s competitive job seeking world. In this packed hour-long conversation, we cover everything from market trends, LinkedIn networking, and the recruitment pipeline, to building a career roadmap and even the AI hype machine. Grab your notebook, settle in, and get ready for real insights you can use – plus a few stories from the trenches and actionable tips for every step of your job hunt.
Jun 28, 2025
59 min
Practicing Software Testing - Guest James Lyndsay
Software Testing is a skill and like all skills require practice, that's what makes you a practitioner of Software Testing. In this episode we're diving into the world of practice with the James Lyndsay. In this conversation, your host Alan Richardson chats with James about the essence of practice in software testing, exploring how exercises and real-world scenarios can enrich our skills. James shares insights on his weekly online practice sessions and the interactive Test Lab concept, offering a dynamic playground for testers. Discover how practice blends with rehearsal and learning, and delve into the intriguing intersection of testing and development. With firsthand experiences in software experiments, fencing, and scientific investigation, James and Alan discuss the art of modeling and exploring software systems. Whether you're refining your testing techniques or embracing new perspectives with AI, this episode offers a wealth of wisdom for testers at all levels. Join us as we learn, laugh, and explore the world of testing practice. We hope you find inspiration for your own practice sessions. Don't forget to check out James's resources at https://workroom-productions.com for more testing challenges and exercises.
Mar 18, 2025
52 min
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