I think it is Sam. I only listened to one episode where they are chatting about server components. I really felt sorry for Ryan. Every time when Ryan wanted to say something he got interrupted by Sam who never used server components. As an listener, I was really hoping I could hear Ryan’s understanding on the server components because it is him who played with server components, but Sam kept interrupting Ryan and talking about his understanding based on his guess.It’s so annoying that I couldn’t really learn anything from this kind of chat.

What I enjoy about this podcast is that Ryan and Sam talk about the pitfalls and successes of not just Ember, but web development in general. Nothing is perfect and as developers, we all encounter rough edges and it’s refreshing to hear their discussions and thoughts.

Sam and Ryan do a fantasitc job unpacking the nuances and challenges of building real applications using Ember. I listen to every one of these and look forward to the next.

Awesome podcast episode as usual. Keep it going guys. More guest interviews would be much appreciated as well. Thanks a lot 🙏