"I've applied for a 100 jobs, but I can't get an interview." Sound familiar? If you're an educator looking to switch careers, you're in luck! Recruiting expert Ksenia Mueller provides Steve and Julie with practical tips that will help you get a foot in the door.

School is back in session, and Julie and Steve are hearing that it is anything but special. If you're like a lot of educators and can't face the thought of 8 more months of school, you're in luck. You don't have to!

Steve and Julie explore the old adage, "If you find a job you love, you'll never work a day in your life." Each host examines where they fell in and then out of love with the field of education and how they were able to find inspiration (and compensation) outside of their careers as educators.

In this episode, Steve and Julie explore the current state of education, discuss their personal journeys out of the K-12 world, and state the case for getting yourself out.

In this episode, Steve and Julie examine the myths of education and the things we tell ourselves to stay trapped. Any of these sound familiar? "I can't do anything else." "The benefits are too good." "I'm only 10 years from retiring." "The retirement system is incredible." Join your hosts as they break down and blow up the lies educators proliferate that keep them trapped in a career they no longer love.

Steve Gfell and Julie Novel are two dropouts of K-12 education who are passionate about helping other educators find the exit. Armed with facts, personal stories, and a few bad jokes, they serve as your guides out of the classroom.