Trigger Warning: This discussion contains adult language and addresses sexual, emotional, physical, and spiritual abuse. By now, most of you have probably heard of the Netflix documentary “Death of the Pastor’s Wife.” It tells the story of Mica Miller and the alleged abuse she suffered at the hands of her pastor/husband, John-Paul Miller. After watching […]
Sep 2
1 hr 39 min
Where are we theologically… Are you serious about deconstruction and asking bigger questions? If that’s the case, this book was created for you. As a former pastor, I made the mistake of deconstructing a bit and then trying to start something new, as I was trained to do. The problem is that I wasn’t ready to begin […]
Aug 26
42 min
Most often, when people hear that we stopped attending church, they assume they know the reasons we left. I assume they hear these accusations from their leadership. They have some consistency, even though they most often miss the mark entirely. They assume: In this episode, Karl and Laura Forehand discuss the troubling aspects of their […]
Aug 19
1 hr 42 min
Teacher Talk: PBIS vs Trauma-Informed Education Part 2 of 2 Laura Forehand talks to our son, JD (Jordan), who teaches in Taiwan, about all things related to education and religion. Not only are they both educators, but they were also involved in ministry for many years (the Pastor’s wife and the Pastor’s son).
Aug 12
1 hr 32 min
Teacher Talk: PBIS vs Trauma-Informed Education Part 1 of 2 Laura Forehand talks to our son, JD (Jordan), who teaches in Taiwan, about all things related to education and religion. Not only are they both educators, but they were also involved in ministry for many years (the Pastor’s wife and the Pastor’s son).
Aug 12
1 hr
Stacy Badon is the mother of three grown sons and YaYa to three beautiful granddaughters. She began her career as a speech therapist in the Louisiana public school system, where she developed a strong passion for early intervention. Stacy is now the CEO and founder of Everything Autism, where she has the privilege of supporting families within the […]
Aug 5
1 hr 7 min
In this episode, Laura and I discuss our growing disgust with our former denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention. Issues center around their push to keep women off the stage and their inability to muster any energy to help survivors of abuse.
Jul 29
1 hr 21 min
Laura Forehand talks to our son, JD (Jordan), who teaches in Taiwan, about all things related to education and religion. Not only are they both educators, but they were also involved in ministry for many years (the Pastor’s wife and the Pastor’s son). Topics include:
Jul 22
1 hr 35 min
Aaron joined us on The Unlearning Curve to share his views on therapy and spirituality after Deconstruction. Because our crew was out of whack, we moved the discussion to The Desert Sanctuary. Aaron is a former pastor and, currently, a mental health professional. If you are wondering what comes next in this crazy desert journey, […]
Jul 8
45 min
Pastor Wives Tell ALL The Desert Sanctuary strives to advocate for all people, especially those harmed by religion. This includes queer people, religious abuse survivors, and marginalized people groups. We do this mainly by letting them tell their stories. One of the hardest groups to access is ex-pastor wives. Rather than making assumptions about why […]
Jul 1
1 hr 19 min
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