The CX Iconoclast
The CX Iconoclast
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Designing Better Endings: Joe MacLeod on the Overlooked Side of Customer Experience
28 minutes Posted Oct 20, 2025 at 5:00 pm.
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In this episode of The CX Iconoclast, Richard Owen sits down with Joe MacLeod – author, speaker, and self-proclaimed “Head of Endineering” – to explore one of the most overlooked parts of customer experience: the ending. Drawing on insights from his books and decades of experience, Joe explains why most companies obsess over creating desire and delivering products, yet neglect the final stage of the customer journey. From cable companies using aggressive tactics to retain customers to gyms ma...