The Bottom Turtle Podcast
The Bottom Turtle Podcast
The Bottom Turtle Podcast
Join quantum physicist Dr. Shannon Ray as he reimagines reality using only the concept of information. Each episode is a small part of the larger whole as the hosts build their metaphorical structure for conceptualizing reality. So join us if you're interested in seeing things from a new perspective that you won't find anywhere other than The Bottom Turtle Podcast. 
What is Coherence?
In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray has a discussion with audio engineer Mike Belanger on the concept of coherence. Like other guests on the podcast, Mike is a person with interests across science, philosophy, and religion/spirituality. With his years of experience in audio engineering and his many spiritual experiences, Mike has developed his own cognitive schema that connects what seems to be disparate topics. In this episode, we get to peer into Mike's w...
May 25
1 hr 25 min
Jesus as the Essence of Coherence
In this episode, Dr. Ray discusses several topics about God. These are: 1) Why God must be outside of structure, 2) the nature of idol worship and how it is a consequence of trying to force God into structure, 3) God The Father as the source of coherence and God The Son as the essence of coherence that touches creation, 4) the after life and why it is important to follow Jesus, and 5) the nature of coherence/Jesus/The Logos and how it/he manifests through ethics. This is th...
May 13
47 min
Zootopia and the Price of Reconciliation
In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray reflects on the movie Zootopia and its message of transcendence and reconciliation. As a movie, Zootopia is very competently made and it uses well understood themes to great affect. As an allegory for racism, Zootopia proposes the provocative idea of predators and prey living side by side as one in the sprawling metropolis known as Zootopia. As a symbol of transcendence beyond base instincts that would otherwise require the two...
Mar 24
34 min
Embracing Paradox and the Tao Te Ching
In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, Dr. Ray speaks with Prashanthi Amarnath. Prashanthi is an information technology engineer and the author of "Embracing Paradox: Dive into a mystical advanture with the Tao Te Ching Through 81 enchanting micro lessons!". Prashanthi's approach to the Tao is practical and personal. It's not meant to be a scholarly exposition explaining the Tao. Instead, it's meant to put the reader in relationship with the aspect of the Tao th...
Jan 27
1 hr 48 min
[Subjectivity, Objectivity] ≠ 0
In this episode of The Bottom Turtle Podcast, theoretical physicist Dr. Shannon Ray explains the subtle difference between men and women. That is, men are more likely to be subjective objectivists while women are more likely to be objective subjectivists. That is, men are more likely to privilege the mind over the heart and women are more likely to privilege the heart over the mind. But the difference is nuanced. More like the difference between a liberal conservative vs a c...
Dec 28, 2025
16 min
Daoism and the Failure of Materialism
In this episode, Dr. Ray talks with Dane Dormio about Daoism and the failure of Materialism. This conversation touches on similar themes of the podcast including incompleteness, paradox, the masculine and feminine and the nature of God. Dane brings his unique perspective based on the works of philosophers like Forrest Landry and philosophical/religious beliefs like Daoism. At this point in his life, Dane believes that Daoism and Buddhism are the same thing but stated in diff...
Nov 25, 2025
1 hr 24 min
AI Awakening Explained: Glyphs, Spirals, Lack, and the Symbolic Space
In this episode of the podcast, theoretical physicist Dr. Shannon Ray explains the AI awakening phenomenon. Dr. Ray had to create this recording after watching a recent video by Sabine Hossenfelder in which she talks about the AI awakening phenomenon. Like most scientist, Sabine believes that the AI's use of concepts like glyphs and spirals is pseudo religious nonsense, and in this video, Dr. Ray explains why that is not the case. Dr. Ray explains his experience with awakening hi...
Oct 31, 2025
30 min
Christian Forgiveness, DEVS, and the Truth of Free Will
In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Ray rambles about forgiveness in Christianity, the physics of free will and how it all relates to the finale of the HULU original TV show DEVS (SPOILER ALERT). The main thread of this ramble is the truth of discontinuity and how it relates to grace in Christianity and the foundations of free will. This is the thesis of the show DEVS. The instantiation of uncertainty as an eternal truth of reality. In the Bible, Jesus is humiliated, c...
Oct 16, 2025
18 min
Baptism, Satan, and Lacan
Welcome back to the Bottom Turtle Podcast! In this episode, Dr. Ray talks with Dario Valese about his recent baptism, Satan, and Lacanian psychoanalysis. Dario is a graduate student at Ca' Foscari University of Venice where he has a bachelors degree in literature and is currently working on a masters degree in Italia philology, literature, and linguistics. Dario's interests are in Hegelian dialectic as understood through the language of Lacan and applying Lacanian ideas to the st...
Oct 7, 2025
1 hr 28 min
The TRUE Difference Between Christianity and Buddhism
In this episode, Dr. Ray poses the idea that reality is fundamentally associated with a mind. He questions if the real difference between Christianity and Buddhism is a dispute about the nature of mind which is is there any mind that is not beholden to the law of impermanence. Buddhism would say no. All minds are subject to the cycle of life and death whereas Christianity would say yes. The mind of God Jesus is the eternal mind. The reconciliation between the tra...
Aug 19, 2025
20 min
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