After a 6-month break, Ben Ma returns to the mic with fellow ArtCenter Transportation Design alumnus Jake Kaufman, CEO of MADE_LIGHT — an innovative magnesium wheel startup blending automotive engineering with a fashion- and culture-driven visual language.Together they talked about:• The story behind Made Light — from idea to launch at Monterey Car Week• Building a brand that feels more like a fashion label than a car-parts company• Designing and testing magnesium wheels with help from Oil Stain Lab (IG:@oilstainlab)• The business side of running a small, lean startup• Finding creative balance after attending ArtCenter and redefining success• Luigi Colani’s influence, art-driven design, and the intersection of nature and machinery• The future of robotics, creativity, and how artists might work with—not against—intelligent machines• Building community, staying human, and planning a future art collaborationGuest🎨 Jake Kaufman — @j.harris.art (https://instagram.com/j.harris.art)🚗 Made Light Wheels — @madelightwheels (https://instagram.com/madelightwheels) | https://madelightwheels.comHost🎙️ Ben Ma — IG: @benma.co @thebenmapodcastIf you enjoy thoughtful conversations on design, art, entrepreneurship, and the future of everything, please subscribe and share this episode with a friend!

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Jim Zhong is a Transportation & 3D CAD designer currently in his final year at ArtCenter College of Design in Los Angeles. You can check out his design works on: jimzdesign.com, and follow him on Instagram @zhong_zihang