A battle has broken out inside the conservative movement over the nature of American identity. Many establishment conservatives insist that America is a propositional nation where you only need to love freedom and wear a football jersey to belong. But identities that are so transactional do not inspire people to sacrifice and die on behalf of a nation. Christian Heiens, cohost of "Making the Argument," joins me to discuss. ollow on:Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-auron-macintyre-show/id1657770114Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3S6z4LBs8Fi7COupy7YYuM?si=4d9662cb34d148afSubstack: https://auronmacintyre.substack.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyreGab: https://gab.com/AuronMacIntyreYouTube:https://www.youtube.com/c/AuronMacIntyreRumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-390155Odysee: https://odysee.com/@AuronMacIntyre:fInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/auronmacintyre/Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices