The Artist Pivot
The Artist Pivot
Ayana Major Bey
As an artist and creative you already innately have it in you to reevaluate and adapt. Pivoting is a part of our journey and sometimes hearing others stories may help us navigate our pivots easier. Listen in on how working artists, those who work in and around the arts, and arts educators have pivoted in their careers, personal lives, and the lessons they have learned along the way. Hopefully their perspectives will inspire, inform, and let you know you’re not alone.
Season 7 Wrap Up: Reflections, Creative Inspirations, and Gratitude
Welcome to the Season 7 wrap-up episode of The Artist Pivot Podcast. I’m grateful for every guest who brought their wisdom and energy to this season. From unexpected pivots in life and creativity, to making plans and embracing change, this season was all about growth and finding comfort in movement. This wrap up is a heartfelt reflection and includes my recent yoga-inspired life lesson about staying in motion and embracing pivots as a key part of every creative journey. I also spotlight some of my favorite makers and products and celebrate big wins from past guests.Wishing you joy, fulfillment, and abundant creativity in 2026. Stay in motion, keep creating, and I’ll see you next season! Get in touch Gold and Water Co: https://goldandwaterco.com/Be Rooted: https://berootedco.com Ayana Major Bey Website: www.ayanabey.comInstagram: @ayanambey, @theartistpivotMonthly Newsletter: https://www.ayanabey.com/podcast Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/ Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network       The Artist Pivot podcast, season wrap up, creative careers, podcast guests, life updates, pivoting, artists, creatives, making plans, goal setting, epiphany, yoga, staying in motion, co-creation, universe, intention, overcoming challenges, personal growth, body butter, Gold and Water Co, favorite things, West End debut, Be Rooted, black-owned business, planners, holiday season, joy, abundant 2026, Ayana Major Bey  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Dec 20, 2025
10 min
S7 Ep 13: It’s Giving Main Character Energy with Imari Hardon
On this episode, I got to chat with performer (Actor/Singer/Dancer/Puppeteer) Imari Hardon, also known as the Thespian Therapist, for a candid and heartfelt conversation. Imari shares her journey of balancing a career in both the performing arts and mental health, diving deep into the lessons learned from unexpected pivots, personal growth, and the realities behind following your passions. We explored how artists can reclaim the “main character” energy in their lives, why breaks fuel creativity, and how genuine connections unlock unexpected opportunities.This episode is full of real talk about what it means to be an artist navigating life’s twists and turns and how practicing self-care, leaning into the power of community, and embracing the “messy” days along with the joyful ones, is how you adapt and thrive in this industry. Imari and I talk about redefining success, honoring your artistry, and learning how sometimes, the best pivots in life happen when you simply allow yourself to just “be.”My 3 takeaways from this episode are that your self-worth is not dependent on your career, pivots are natural and necessary, and that joy and rest are essential tools.  Whether you’re a creative navigating career changes or simply seeking a dose of inspiration, this conversation highlights the importance of curiosity, self-compassion, and staying true to your unique path. Get in touch: Imari Hardon Website: https://www.thethespiantherapist.com/Instagram: @princessimari   @thethespiantherapist Ayana Major Bey Website: www.ayanabey.comInstagram: @ayanambey, @theartistpivotMonthly Newsletter: https://www.ayanabey.com/podcast  Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/  Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey  Part of the Atabey & Co Network        self-care, therapy, Broadway, mental health, drama therapy, psychodrama, musical theater, artist pivots, career transitions, auditioning, people pleasing, trauma, main character energy, self-worth, performing arts, friendship breakups, work-life balance, Black women in theater, identity, role expectations, creative burnout, side characters, artistic community, pandemic impact, audition rejection, creative fulfillment, networking, rest and breaks, validation, personal growth Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Oct 8, 2025
54 min
S7 Ep12: Celebrating 5 Years of The Artist Pivot Podcast: Lessons, Gratitude, and Embracing Change
Welcome to a very special 5th anniversary edition of The Artist Pivot Podcast! On this episode I celebrate five incredible years of sharing the journeys, pivots, and profound wisdom of artists and creative humans navigating change. In this heartfelt solo episode, I reflect on the origins of the podcast—born from a pandemic-induced pivot away from musical theater coaching—and the lessons I’ve learned along the way. From the importance of “just doing it,” to finding accountability, embracing life’s balancing act, and learning to stay curious, I get candid about my own ongoing journey as an artist in flux. I also open up about the challenges, joys, and ongoing evolution of The Artist Pivot and celebrate the power of creative reinvention. Cheers to five years—and many more to come—of finding new ways to create, survive, and thrive!Ayana Major Bey Website: www.ayanabey.comInstagram: @ayanambey, @theartistpivotMonthly Newsletter: https://www.ayanabey.com/podcast Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network     The Artist Pivot Podcast, Ayana Major Bey, podcast anniversary, podcast production, creative pivot, accountability, podcast launch, musical theater, pandemic pivot, creative entrepreneurship, vulnerability, imposter syndrome, work-life balance, artistic balance, show business, capitalism, career change, artist support, green coupons, personal growth, storytelling, artist interviews, podcast newsletter, corporate creativity, self-reflection, pivoting artists Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Sep 24, 2025
18 min
REVISIT: S5 Ep14: Talia Thiesfield - The Impermanence of a Pivot
This episode originally aired Sept 27th, 2023. I had the pleasure of talking with actor and actor career coach Talia Thiesfield and these are some of my takeaways. Pivots are both internal and external and can be big or small but either way trust your own path. Next, once you’ve learned how to learn the lesson in a pivot you can then carry over lessons from pivot to pivot and set boundaries. You don’t have to go back to something that you pivoted to before just because you find yourself needing to change again. Set your boundaries. Last but not least, be in gratitude as much as you can. Pivoting is expanding and look at it this way you survived the last pivot you made and you're here for another pivot to happen.Talia is a full-time actor, voiceover artist, and talent & career coach. She currently appears as recurring character NYPD Rep Maya on FBI (CBS), and has guest starred on various television shows including Succession & Veep (HBO), Limitless & Kevin Can Wait (CBS), and Suspscion (Apple TV+). I am also an alum of the NBC Diversity Showcase. She stars in the award-winning film Inez & Doug & Kira, wherein she played the title role of Kira opposite Michael Chernus and Tawny Cypress. Additionally, her voice can be heard in multiple vocal modalities for various commercials, video games, and animated projects including a three-season run as “B” in DreamWork’s Trollstopia. A lover of new works, She has originated and helped develop a number of roles for Off Broadway and regional houses. These include the world premieres of Ring Twice For Miranda at NY City Center off-Broadway (Anouk), How To Break at Seattle's renowned Village Theater (Dr. Aden), Windfall at Bay Street Theater directed by Jason Alexander (Jaqueline Vanderbilt), and Cleopatra: The Pop Experience at Theater for the New City (Cleopatra). She is currently nominated for a Heilman & Haver Award for Best Featured Actor in a Musical (How To Break at Village Theater). Previously, she received a Broadway World Regional Award for my performance as Daniela in In The Heights (Dallas Theater Center) and I am a Connecticut Critics Circle nominee, having earned a nod for Best Actress in a Musical for my portrayal of Aldonza in Man of La Mancha (Ivoryton Theater). As a coach, educator, and consultant she’s been a guest lecturer at Columbia University, Rutgers University (Mason Gross School of the Arts), Montclair State University, The University of Connecticut, The No Marking Society (founded by Kate Lumpkin, CSA), and The Broadway Collective. She is the founder of The Act of Style Coaching which has gained wide popularity and the respect and collaboration of industry professionals nationwide on Instagram. She uses her own trademarked method to provide acting, branding, and career coaching that combines business savvy with craft in empowering actors to feel more confidence, pride, and authenticity in their work. Get in touch: Talia ThiesfieldWebsite: https://www.taliathiesfield.com/Instagram: @theactofstylecoaching Ayana Major Bey Website: www.ayanabey.comInstagram: @ayanambey, @theartistpivotMonthly Newsletter: https://www.ayanabey.com/podcast Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/ Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network   Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Sep 10, 2025
53 min
S7 Ep 11: Finding Your Lane and Defying Artistic Boxes with Lynn Harris
On today’s episode, I sit down with the multitalented Lynn Harris—founder, author, former journalist, and CEO of Gold Comedy. We dive deep into Lynn’s unique journey within the arts and entertainment industry, from her early creative passions to founding a company that's changing the face of comedy for women and marginalized voices.Lynn touches upon the power of embracing your authentic self, the challenges and revelations that come with pivoting from artist to entrepreneur, and why representation in comedy still matters (and has a long way to go). Lynn also shares insightful advice for artists navigating their own pivots, emphasizing the importance of staying true to your story, and finding the right community to help you along the way. My top three takeaways from this episode are: You don’t have to give up your core creative identity to succeed as a founder, Art IS business so own your value, and Community is fuel for creative pivots.Whether you’re someone contemplating a major career pivot, or just a comedy lover looking for inspiration, this conversation is packed with real talk, laughs, and nuggets of wisdom you won’t want to miss. Also don’t forget to like and subscribe to this show and leave a review if you so choose. You can also stay updated on everything podcast by subscribing to the monthly newsletter at ayanabey.com/podcast and make sure to follow on instagram @theartistpivot. Podcast NewsletterPodcast InstagramPodcast PatreonPodcast MerchPodcast Youtube Channel  Podcast Buy Me a Coffee Get in touch:Lynn Harris Website Instagram Gold Comedy Ayana Major BeyWebsiteInstagram Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey  Part of the Atabey & Co Network       comedy, Gold Comedy, women in comedy, diversity in entertainment, founder journey, creative pivots, entertainment industry, startup life, female entrepreneurs, culture change, pop culture, representation, feminism, performing arts, improvisation, stand-up comedy, writers rooms, business of art, creative careers, inclusion, community building, intersectionality, networking, social enterprise, art as business, culture strategy, pitching shows, creative identity, subscription model Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Aug 27, 2025
48 min
S7 Ep 10: Dial It Back and Reframe with Jennifer Apple
On this episode of The Artist Pivot Podcast I chat with Jennifer Apple—actor, acting coach, writer, and host of the Empowered Artists Collective podcast—to explore the real meaning of artistic pivoting in today’s world. Jennifer shares her journey of embracing not just one path, but a multitude of creative identities. She identifies how reframing “surviving” as a creative into “pivoting” as a creative brings in opportunity and helps you settle into an abundance mindset which has empowered Jennifer to thrive in an ever-changing industry.You’ll hear about the importance of community, giving yourself permission to rest and experience joy amidst the grind, breaking down the myths of having to “choose one lane” as an artist and get real about the challenges of making art sustainable—mentally, emotionally, and financially.Jennifer also dives into the origins and mission behind her own podcast and resource hub, the Empowered Artists Collective, revealing how sharing insight, reframing language, and providing support can help fellow artists create their own blueprints. Whether you’re in need of motivation to keep going, looking for ways to fill your creative cup, or simply hoping to hear how another artist navigates change, this conversation is both inspiring and refreshingly practical. So grab your seltzer (with a straw!) and get ready to pivot toward possibility.Podcast NewsletterPodcast InstagramPodcast PatreonPodcast MerchPodcast Youtube Channel  Podcast Buy Me a CoffeeGet in touch:Jennifer Apple WebsiteInstagramEmpowered Artist CollectiveAyana Major BeyWebsiteInstagram Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network    pivoting, multi-hyphenate artists, acting, acting coach, artist burnout, scarcity mindset, abundance mindset, creative careers, the arts industry, making money as an artist, artist identity, taking breaks, self-care, artistic community, Empowered Artists Collective, podcasting, monologue selection, MFA programs, coaching, artistic agency, creative blocks, imposter syndrome, mental health for artists, reframing success, embracing joy, business skills for artists, balancing art and life, resource sharing, mentorship Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Aug 13, 2025
56 min
S7 Ep 9: Action Creates Clarity with Emily-Jane Sarroff
“It's a partnering of understanding and developing awareness whilst also taking action to build that belief in yourself, because action will build belief.” -Emily-Jane Sarroff I am joined on this episode by Australian brand artist Emily-Jane Sarroff for an inspiring conversation about the winding journey of embracing your creative self. Emily opens up about her decade-long path, from nearly pursuing a career in art to following a more "practical" route in architecture, only to realize years later that her soul longed for creativity. She shares raw moments of burnout, self-discovery, and the pivotal decision to leave behind the traditional markers of success to reconnect with her artistic roots.Emily takes us behind-the-scenes of her personal and professional pivots, from building—and then nearly walking away from—a successful business, to embarking on a solo adventure in Canada to rebuild her self-trust. Through honest reflection, she explores the power of asking “what if,” learning to redefine success, and finding daily joy—sometimes in the simplest things like watering flowers or supportive conversations with loved ones.Whether you’re an artist questioning your own path, or simply someone navigating change, Emily’s story is filled with wisdom, fresh perspective, and encouragement. Get ready for an episode that’s all about trusting your instincts, taking messy action, and finding fulfillment by leading with your creativity.Podcast NewsletterPodcast InstagramPodcast PatreonPodcast MerchPodcast Youtube Channel  Podcast Buy Me a Coffee Get in touch:Emily-Jane SarroffInstagramLinkedIn Ayana Major BeyWebsiteInstagram Show Sponsors: WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey Editor: Kieran Niemand Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Jul 30, 2025
48 min
S7 Ep 8: Balancing The Energies of Artistry and Entrepreneurship with Jazelle Foster
“There's a time where the artist sleeps, and there's a time when the artist creates. And now is the time for the artist to create, because it's the mirror back to our society. And it doesn't have to be perfect. It doesn't have to be amazing. It just needs to be, because we all need it to be.” - Jazelle Foster  On this episode I talk with digital marketing strategist and actor Jazelle Foster for a truly inspiring and candid conversation. Jazelle shares her winding journey from actor to accomplished educator and entrepreneur, revealing how her determination to avoid the emotional drain of service gigs led her to discover a passion for teaching—and eventually, for helping artists master the ever-evolving world of marketing. We unpack what it really means to be a multi-hyphenate creative in today’s unpredictable arts industry and Jazelle speaks honestly about learning through experience, and the often messy process of finding balance between artistic pursuits and business ambitions. We discuss the pressures (and pitfalls) of social media, the importance of protecting your energy, and why every artist’s path is unique—and valid. With warmth and wit, Jazelle offers practical insights for artists trying to carve out their own version of success—whether by building a business, embracing their current pivot, or simply giving themselves permission not to do it all. This episode is packed with wisdom about following inspiration, maintaining joy, and keeping your inner child at the heart of your creative journey. If you’ve ever wondered how to survive and thrive as a creative entrepreneur, this conversation is for you!  Podcast Newsletter  Podcast Instagram  Podcast Patreon Podcast Merch  Podcast Youtube Channel   Podcast Buy Me a Coffee  Get in touch: Jazelle Foster  Instagram  LinkedIn  Creatives Meet Marketing  Website  Instagram  Ayana Major Bey  Website  Instagram  Show Sponsors:  WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/ Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey  Editor: Kieran Niemand  Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network  digital marketing, actor entrepreneurship, social media strategy, creative entrepreneurship, work-life balance, branding for actors, pivoting careers, teaching theater, bootcamp for digital marketing, social media for artists, energy management, side hustles for creatives, marketing for actors, content creation, going viral on social media, building an agency, client management, block scheduling, detachment from work, income streams for artists, coping with adulthood, joy in creative careers, personal branding, online presence, business ownership as an artist, inspiration for creativity, managing multiple passions, agency team management, artist identity, social media alternatives for artists
Jul 2, 2025
56 min
S7 Ep 7: Storytelling, Menopause, and Owning Your Power as an Artist with Satori Shakoor
Failure is really the platform to success, because you know that if you failed you tried, and if you tried you can try again. Failure teaches you more than success.” - Satori Shakoor On this episode I am joined by the powerhouse storyteller, artist, and social entrepreneur Satori Shakoor. From her earliest artistic dreams in second grade to the groundbreaking Brides of Funkenstein and launching her own theater company, Satori has mastered the art of the pivot—constantly reinventing herself and her creative journey. We dive into Satori’s new film, Confessions of a Menopausal Femme Fatale, an honest and hilarious stand-up storytelling concert that shines a much-needed light on menopause and women’s health. Satori shares her personal pivots, from making cardboard violins as a determined child, to founding the culturally diverse Obsidian Theatre Company in Canada, to harnessing the power of storytelling as a service. Along the way, Satori offers her wisdom on pushing past self-doubt and embracing your own definition of success—while championing the importance of women sharing stories, taking up space, and rejecting society’s outdated demands.  If you’re ready for inspiration, laughter, and a powerful reminder to “do what you love, no matter what,” this episode is for you. Podcast Newsletter  Podcast Instagram  Podcast Patreon Podcast Merch  Podcast Youtube Channel   Podcast Buy Me a Coffee  Get in touch: Satori Shakoor Website  Instagram  LinkedIn  Ayana Major Bey  Website  Instagram  Show Sponsors:  WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/ Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey  Editor: Kieran Niemand  Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network  menopause, perimenopause, women’s health, storytelling, social entrepreneurship, pivoting careers, self-empowerment, breaking taboos, Black women, theater company, Obsidian Theatre, Detroit arts, stand-up comedy, executive producer, documentary film, Confessions of a Menopausal Femme Fatale, community support, patriarchy, self-doubt, women in the arts, artistic entrepreneurship, creating opportunities, representation, mental health, post-partum depression, sexuality, ageism, women’s empowerment, artistic resilience, work-life balance
Jun 18, 2025
43 min
S7 Ep 6: Finding Joy in Not Knowing: Pia Leichter on Creative Pivots, Trust, and Living Fully
On today’s episode I am joined by Pia Leichter, creative partner, author, and creative coach for a conversation about embracing pivots, unleashing creativity, and designing life as your biggest art project. Pia shares her journey from New York City to Copenhagen and transition from a decade-long agency career to entrepreneurship by finally listening to that little voice nudging her toward something bigger. We debunked the myth that we’re supposed to have it all together by a certain age because that doesn’t leave room to grow or cultivate new experiences.  You’ll hear some beautiful reflections on navigating loss, the courage it takes to make big life pivots, and practical wisdom for artists and creatives striving to bloom within the realities of life. Pia also discusses her book, "Welcome to the Creative Club: Make Life Your Biggest Art Project," and shares why she believes every leap of faith can spark lasting transformation. Pia invites us to challenge our own notions of security, trust the process, and find joy in not knowing what’s next. Get ready to dive into a conversation that’s equal parts practical, philosophical, and deeply nurturing for the creative soul. Podcast Newsletter  Podcast Instagram  Podcast Patreon Podcast Merch  Podcast Youtube Channel   Podcast Buy Me a Coffee  Get in touch: Pia Leichter Website  Instagram  LinkedIn  Book - Welcome to the Creative Club: Make Life Your Biggest Art Project Amazon Bookshop.org Ayana Major Bey  Website  Instagram  Show Sponsors:  WeAudition: Get 25% off your membership when you use the code PIVOT, join at https://www.weaudition.com/ Host & Exec. Producer: Ayana Major Bey  Editor: Kieran Niemand  Theme Song: Lyrics co-written by Ayana Major Bey and Melissa Victor, with performance by Ayana Major Bey   Part of the Atabey & Co Network  creative journey, pivoting careers, entrepreneurship, creative coaching, living in Copenhagen, , traveling to Bali, celebrating milestones, first-time experiences, overcoming fear, leaving a salaried job, agency life, creativity and uncertainty, embracing not knowing, intuitive decision-making, writing a book, storytelling, vulnerability, grief and loss, financial security, money mindset, co-creation, creative process, trusting the process, newsletter writing, creating evidence, work-life balance, artist struggles, creative fulfillment
Jun 4, 2025
1 hr 2 min
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