Spying in the age of COVID-19 The COVID-19 pandemic is revealing new challenges facing the world of intelligence. Which countries were equipped to quickly track data from Wuhan and beyond? How is spycraft adapting to the digital era? And how are agencies preparing for a return to great power competition? Join Jonathan Pearlman and guests Danielle Cave and Andrew Davies from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. Background reading: Danielle Cave, “Data Driven” in Australian Foreign Affairs 9 Andrew Davies, “Mission Impossible” in Australian Foreign Affairs 9 See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Can We Depend on America? As the COVID-19 pandemic deepens the divide between the United States and China, Washington’s long-term commitment to Asia has come under question. Will the US try to prevent China’s regional dominance? And what does this growing rivalry mean for US allies such as Australia? Guests: Kelly Magsamen, from the Center for American Progress, and Michael Wesley, from The University of Melbourne. Background reading: Beyond Trump: The view from the United States in Australian Foreign Affairs 8 Beijing Calling: How China is testing the alliance in Australian Foreign Affairs 8   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A podcast about foreign affairs in Australia and the Asia-Pacific. The AFA podcast is a new audio offering from the publisher of Australian Foreign Affairs, Quarterly Essay, The Monthly and The Saturday Paper. Hosted by Jonathan Pearlman, editor of Australian Foreign Affairs, The AFA Podcast engages with the complex challenges facing Australia and the Asia-Pacific region. Each episode is around twenty-five minutes in length and features conversations with some of the world’s leading thinkers. See the world through the eyes of award-winning journalists, foreign policy analysts, academics and politicians. Gain insight into our place in the world via in-depth interviews and lively debate. Stay connected to the global issues that matter with The AFA Podcast. Subscribe via your favourite podcast app or listen at australianforeignaffairs.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.