
In this episode, former CISOs-turned-founders Jerry Perullo, Mario Duarte, and Sounil Yu discuss the recent wave of cyber-attacks using Snowflake and the model of shared fate. They debate the effectiveness of banning ransom payments and explore the complexities of cybersecurity regulation, using recent events involving UnitedHealth and Jerry's former employer as case studies. The conversation also touches on the ethical dilemmas CISOs face when interacting with venture capital, highlighting personal experiences and the fine line between advisory roles and conflicts of interest.Stories:UNC5537 Targets Snowflake Customer Instances for Data Theft and Extortion: https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/threat-intelligence/unc5537-snowflake-data-theft-extortionSEC Charges Intercontinental Exchange and Nine Affiliates Including the New York Stock Exchange with Failing to Inform the Commission of a Cyber Intrusion: https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2024-63Why cybercriminals are targeting small businesses: https://www.marketplace.org/2024/05/30/why-cybercriminals-are-targeting-small-businesses/UnitedHealth leaders 'should be held responsible' for installing inexperienced CISO, senator says: https://therecord.media/unitedhealth-ciso-wyden-letter-sec-ftcThe Gili Ra’anan model: Questions emerging from Cyberstarts' remarkable success: https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/b1a1jn00hcHosts:Jerry Perullo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/perullo/Mario Duarte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mario-duarte-7855237/Sounil Yu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sounil/
Jul 1, 2024
1 hr 12 min

Joined by fellow Interim CISO veterans Yael Nagler of Yass Partners and Aurobindo Sundaram of RELX, host Jerry Perullo reflects on his experience as the Interim CISO of Silicon Valley Bank and explores the challenges of the role from hiring manager and candidate perspectives.Yael Nagler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yaelnagler/Aurobindo Sundaram: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aurobindosundaram/
Jan 23, 2024
56 min

Returning from 6 months as the interim CISO of Silicon Valley Bank, host Jerry Perullo speaks about Board/CISO interaction on the FS-ISAC Insights podcast. Full video interview at fsisac.com/insights
Aug 2, 2023
31 min

Bugcrowd founder Casey Ellis joins #lifeafterCISO to talk about bug bounty programs in the wake of the Joe Sullivan Uber trial. Whether you've been running bounty programs for years or just learned of them last week, this conversation will take you from basics straight into the most interesting and controversial bits.
Oct 20, 2022
58 min

Sounil Yu joins the #lifeafterCISO podcast and shares the idea of "retiring many times". Sounil is the renowned author of the Cyber Defense Matrix and lauded by the CISO community for his ability to step back and view problems in a new light. Host Jerry Perullo and Sounil go on to look at the Equifax breach from a new angle, talk about CISO accountability, and finally offer up their early thoughts on the Twitter whistleblower report.01:43 Returning to work as a CISO10:30 Do CISOs spend too much time on tech?11:38 CDM and the Equifax breach15:00 CISO accountability19:45 The Twitter whistleblower complaintLearn more about Sounil and his work at https://www.cyberdefensematrix.com/
Sep 6, 2022
35 min

An essential part of moving on from a long tech career is just figuring out when the time is right. Join host Jerry Perullo and retired Netflix CISO Jason Chan for a discussion about picking your time, "Identity Management" after retirement, and the Psychology of Happiness.Links to the material discussed by Jason Chan include:https://arthurbrooks.com/podcast_show/the-art-of-happiness-with-arthur-brooks/https://www.coursera.org/learn/the-science-of-well-being
Aug 23, 2022
38 min

In this Episode host Jerry Perullo talking about cybersecurity in higher education. A Professor of the Practice in the Georgia Tech School of Cyber Security and Privacy, Perullo thinks aloud on the challenges that have prevented cyber from taking off at the undergraduate level before focusing on specific steps you might take to pursue this career path.00:00:55 A Brief History of Cyber in Higher Ed 00:03:11 The Archetype Cyber Curriculum 00:08:03 Enter the CISO: t-500:13:25 When You Are Ready to Take the Leap 00:16:01 Is It Worth It?
Jun 16, 2022
23 min

In this episode we are talking about Angel Investing, Advisory Work, and how they are essentially the same thing when you get down to it. Hear some details about evaluating opportunities, structuring "deals", and avoiding mistakes along the way.00:05:37 Don’t Screw Up - Riding VC Paper, the FAST Agreement, Option Vesting,... 00:21:26 Win - Playing to your Strengths 00:24:11 Diversify - Frequency and Volume to Avoid Black Swans 00:30:17 Conflicts & Disclosure
Apr 18, 2022
35 min

In this episode, host Jerry Perullo explores the opportunities and challenges for retiring tech executives and CISOs in the Board room. Hear about how Boards need business leaders first and specialists second, and what you can do today to groom yourself in that very direction.01:57 Background07:45 The Traditional Board Director09:50 Episode BLUF10:19 Landing a Seat14:32 Your Board Profile16:08 t-3: What You Should do Now28:40 Recap
Mar 28, 2022
29 min

In this introductory episode, host Jerry Perullo talks about the range of opportunities available to tech executives after the day job. Perullo leverages his 20 years of experience as the founding CISO of ICE and the New York Stock Exchange to discuss what you can do 3-5 years before leaving your post to get prepared.00:08:43 Advisory Work00:13:20 Consulting00:16:00 Angel Investing00:25:05 Board Directorship00:35:12 Entrepreneurship00:37:06 Teaching00:39:12 Volunteering
Feb 23, 2022
41 min
