Teaching What It Takes ®
Teaching What It Takes ®
Dr. Christopher Thurber
Dr. Chris Thurber is joined by brilliant co-hosts and celebrity guests for compelling and controversial discussions about the future of humanity. Favorite topics include: race, religion, and the reasons life matters.
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT  [Ep. 22]  What’s the history of slavery in the North? Teaching What It Takes
Special guest, Barbara Rimkunas, Co-Executive Director of the Exeter Historical Society, unveils stunning evidence of white New Hampshire residence owning Black slaves both before and after the Emancipation Proclamation. Hear why "Southerners owned slaves, but Northerners didn't" is an overgeneralization we need to confront and understand.
Jul 14, 2022
1 hr 12 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 21]  What if our kids’ heroes have a different skin color?
Special guests, Johan Le Roux and Mzamo Moloi, join us from Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa, to discuss fatherhood and social justice after apartheid. What if our children's heroes have a different skin color? How should we prepare our children for a prejudiced world?  
Feb 26, 2022
1 hr 12 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT?  [Ep. 20]  How do Lenses, Mirrors, and Second Sight make us better?
Special guest, John Daves, Director of Community & Equity Affairs at St. Mark's School, discusses the identity lenses we look through, our willingness to look in the mirror, and the importance of "second sight"--the ability to see ourselves how others see us. Is this a triple threat for white people or other majority groups?  
Feb 26, 2022
1 hr 20 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT?  [Ep. 19]  How did racism play out in the murder of Gabby Petito?
Hosts David and Chris discuss media coverage of Gabby Petito's murder. What responsibility do journalists and media corporations have to investigate and publicize crimes against people from traditionally under-represented groups? How do we, as media consumers, counteract the bias in who makes headlines?  
Feb 26, 2022
52 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 18] What could stop violence at the US – Mexico border?
Hosts David and Chris discuss the Sept 23 violence against Haitian refugees at the US - Mexico border. How do images of this event portray American values to audiences on MSNBC, Fox News, and Al Jazeera? What do these grim echoes of America's history of slavery say about our social progress?  
Feb 26, 2022
1 hr 1 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT?  [Ep. 17]  How can youth leaders inspire equity and justice?
To kick off Season 2, hosts David and Chris reflect on Season 1 of IBYW and discuss summer camp staff training, making amends for unintentional microaggressions, cross-cultural fluency, and the state of the world after the tragic deaths of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, and others.  
Feb 26, 2022
56 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT? [Ep. 15] Meet your future president + a social rocket scientist.
Special guests Ken Mendis, Chair of the Racial Unity Team, and Joshua Conley, Mizzou student leader and 2060 POTUS, discuss what motivates people of all ages to be fight prejudice. You'll be stunned to learn why listening leads to more change than strident rhetoric. Click play for some fresh voices on race in America.  
Nov 20, 2020
1 hr 9 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT?  [Ep. 14]  How can white people become anti-racists, really?
Co-hosts David M. Conley and Chris Thurber reveal surprising truths about the pinnacles and pitfalls of being an anti-racist. Social justice can save the world but depends on a sustained commitment to the raggedy work of taking initiative, listening to feedback, speaking your truth, and tolerating alternate views...all with civility.  
Nov 6, 2020
1 hr 1 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT?  [Ep. 13]  How can we defund the police without creating chaos?
Guests John Leggette, St. Louis Metro Police Department, and Montague Simmons, human rights activist, debate the merits and practical considerations of #defundthepolice​. How can the US peacefully undo 30+ years of addressing social strife with a forceful police presence and mass incarceration? As Legette and Simmons explain, we need to commit to eliminating the root causes of crime, including unemployment, racism, lack of affordable housing, and low-quality education.  
Oct 30, 2020
1 hr 4 min
I’M BLACK; YOU’RE WHITE–NOW WHAT?  [Ep. 12]  How can travel and teenagers save the world?
Phillips Exeter Academy teacher and coach, Brandon Thomas, joins co-hosts David M. Conley and Dr. Chris Thurber to explain how race is perceived differently in China vs. the US and how classrooms can be crucibles for anti-black racism. Are international exchange programs part of the solution?  
Oct 23, 2020
44 min
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