Context: I chaired a Heroin Anonymous meeting before this discussion. The speaker, who was Christi from episode 3, came out and delivered a rousing share. It mentally threw me off the goal of the original discussion, BUT this is still a great mentally stimulating bout of verbal and emotional exchange. I hope DAB will do it again soon! Check out his youtube channel, "Everyday Skeptic" and look for his episodes on, Your New Opinion Podcast. 

Ben aka DAB is a person I hold in high regard as someone who is incredibly deep and intellectual. I think this recording will shed light and stimulate your brain as much as it did mine!