Talking Transformation
Talking Transformation
Pete Ahmad
An open conversation addressing contemporary city building and spatial transformation issues in South Africa.
TTPod 5.4: "Journey of a Candidate Town Planner" - In Conversation with Tunisia Cassim
This TTPod episode is a perfect example of the kind of conversation we want to amplify on this platform.I'm joined online from Tshwane by Tunisia Cassim, recently recognised as one of the South African Council for Planners’ Top 30 Women in Planning for 2025. Tunisia’s journey is truly inspiring and reflective of many of the challenges young planners face.She shares her early days navigating bursaries and retrenchments, to the resilience and perseverance needed during the COVID-era, JUST when her career was changing gears. And more recently we share in the celebration of her recently completed Master of Science in Planning at Wits.Her story is about more than professional milestones—it’s about resilience, mentorship, and the passion to connect theory with practice in the planning profession.  She is a tireless champion and emerging mentor for young planners through her widely followed LinkedIn journal, Journey of a Candidate Town Planner.Tunisia reflects on the giants who shaped her path, the importance of bursaries and supportive educators, and the realities of building a career in a shifting urban landscape.Her reflections on resilience, mentorship, and the intersection of theory and practice remind us why these conversations matter.So settle in as we explore the lessons, challenges, and triumphs of a planner whose voice is helping redefine the future of the profession in South Africa.Recorded: Friday 12th December 2025
Dec 17, 2025
1 hr 6 min
TTPod 5.3: "The Other Side of the Tracks" In Conversation with Transnet Executive - Yolisa Kani
In this TTPod episode we’re catching up with someone who’s become a real friend of the podcast and a standout leader in South Africa’s public sector: Yolisa Kani. She’s back with me in Cape Town, bringing her trademark energy and a wealth of experience from both government and the private sector.  If you’ve followed Yolisa’s journey, you’ll know she’s spent decades at the forefront of transformation—blending policy, stakeholder negotiation, and commercial leadership to drive real change in how people and goods move across the country.  After a four-year stint leading public policy for Uber in Southern Africa she re-entered the public sector, taking on the pivotal role of Chief Business Development Officer at Transnet.  In this episode she reflects on:  * The launch of LeaseCo, which aims to mobilize rolling stock, invite third-party operators, and free up strategic assets for broader development.  * The cultural and leadership shifts happening within Transnet—and what that means for customers, cities, and the economy over the next 12 to 36 months.  * Practical steps being taken to turn surplus Transnet property into real urban opportunities, and how the company is responding to calls for more flexible, mixed-use developments near transport nodes.  We conclude with Yolisa’s candid reflections on the challenges ahead, the importance of collaboration between public and private sectors, and the milestones set for the coming year—including the ambitious targets for LeaseCo and the broader reforms designed to get more freight off the roads and onto rail.  So, settle in for a conversation that’s as insightful as it is inspiring. As always, we hope you enjoy the episode.  Recorded 20th October 2025 
Nov 14, 2025
51 min
TTPod 5.2: "The Chaos Precinct" - In conversation with Author and Planner, Dr. Tanya Zack
Welcome back to the Talking Transformation Podcast! We'redelighted to welcome back Tanya Zack, a renowned urban planner and author, joining us from Johannesburg.  Tanya first graced our podcast in February 2023 when shediscussed her book "Wake Up, This is Joburg!", a fascinatingexploration of inner-city Johannesburg urban landscape and the vibrant communities operating within that space.  In this episode, Tanya is here to talk about her latestbook, "The Chaos Precinct", set in the so-called, 'Ethiopian Quarter' in the inner city of Johannesburg, a vibrant area known for its cross-border shopping. This precinct, pioneered by Ethiopian migrants, has transformed theCBD’s office towers into bustling shopping centers filled with small, cupboard-sized shops.  These shops, which sell fast fashion, have repurposed whatwere once medical buildings into a thriving commercial hub. The book delves into the dynamic and ever-evolving urban spaces of Johannesburg, offering deep insights into the lives of the people who live and work there. It explores theeconomic potential of this area and the challenges faced by its inhabitants, providing a compelling narrative of transformation and resilience, policing and governance: identity and belonging. This is the second book Tanya has discussed on the TalkingTransformation podcast, and we couldn't be more excited to hear about her latest work.  "The Chaos Precinct" promises to be another compelling read, offering deep insights into the dynamic and ever-evolving urban spaces of Johannesburg.  For those of you watching this via YouTube, you’ll also getto see some of the images included in the book, celebrating another collaboration with photographer Mark Lewis, our co-guest back in 2023 when we first discussed Joburg with Tanya.  Orders for "The Chaos Precinct", published byJacana Media, can be made via:https://jacana.co.za/product/the-chaos-precinct-johannesburg-as-a-port-city/Email the Talking Transformation Podcast [email protected] Find us on Bluse Sky @TTpod Recorded: 17th July 2025
Aug 18, 2025
45 min
TTPod 5.1: "Unlocking Networks & Potential With Community Data" in conversation with Wakamoso Africa's Dr Melani Prinsloo and Mike Matthews
It's been a busy couple of months behind the scenes of the Talking Transformation podcast. I've been eager to introduce a visual element to the podcast to highlight some of the rich visual imagery and products highlighted by our guests. This has involved a lot of upskilling and learning on my part to ensure that what we produce is both fit for purpose and adds value to our listeners (soon to be listeners AND viewers!).So, here it is, Series 5, Episode 1, and the first visual introduction to the TTPod’s first dual-medium podcast, featuring an interview with Wakamoso’s Dr. Melani Prinsloo and Mike Mathews. This conversation is sure to inspire those who work with communities and data alike. We discuss how to harness the potential of communities and develop value and networks from their own data and information and starting to use that data commons to improve the understanding and the data available and strengthen the networks and value within that community. I hope you'll enjoy the episode and the medium. If we’ve earned your subscription please do like, share and subscribe. Most importantly, enjoy the conversation and insights from Melani and Mike! Find us on BlueSky via @TTpodThe audio version will still be available via all the usual podcast platforms including Apple, Spotify and Deezer. For more information on Wakamoso - check out their excellent website via https://www.wakamoso.africa/Recorded May 1st 2025
May 29, 2025
1 hr
TTPod 4.7: "Lines, Wines and Tears!" - the ups and downs of Johannesburg's post-2000 Metro Planning Policy
We follow up from our introductory episode with a second podcast episode featuring the planners who have worked as the head of the City of Johannesburg's Metro Planning unit 2000: Johan Olivier, Pete Ahmad, Nkateko Shipalana, Thandeka Mlaza-Lloyd and Minenhle Maphumulo. These guests represent a straight line of succession from the inception of the metro in 2000. Their availability and willingness to share their experiences presents a unique opportunity to go deep into the themes and aspects of metro scale planning. In this episode we consider some of the processes and plans that have become fundamentals of Johannesburg’s post-2000 planning frameworks and the rationale at that metropolitan scale. We reflect on some of the matters and metrics that kept us up at night and touch on the tricky tightrope officials walk: trying, on the one hand to balance political imperatives and needs with sound planning norms and overarching regulatory requirements on the other. There are stories of hope and disappointment and many lessons to reflect on. It's another engaging conversation and will be of interest to built environment professionals, young and old. Regrettably, Dylan Weakley was unable to join us for this episode but we are looking forward to him rejoining the fold in the next conversation where we hope to deal with matters of spatial targeting, prioritisation and aligning the spatial plans to budgets.  Recorded 15th October 2024
Oct 27, 2024
45 min
TTPod 4.6: iGoli's Post-2000 Metro Planning Generations and Perspectives - Intro Episode
After a period of downtime on the TTPod recording front, we return with this first episode of a miniseries contemplating the metropolitan scale planning challenges and approaches adopted in the City of Johannesburg since 2000. This first introductory episode acts as an introductory episode, introducing six of us: professional planners who have held the title of Assistant Director: Metroplitan Planning since the City was constituted in 2000. Colleagues Johan Olivier, Peter Ahmad, Nkateko Shiplana, Dylan Weakley, Minenhle Maphumulo and Thandeka Mlaza-Lloyd each take a turn in introducing themselves and reflect on dominant themes and challenges they faced over two and half decades of metro planning. It was a really special recording, and I'm looking forward to unpacking some of the key themes and issues with colleagues in future episodes. For now, enjoy the stories and handovers that, in some small way, have contributed to the thinking and progress made in the City's metropolitan landscape since 2000. Recorded 1st October 2024
Oct 7, 2024
49 min
TTPod 4.5: Financing and Shaping Township Transformation - the uMaStandi perspective
The small-scale rental sector continues to gain momentum and prominence in discussions about city building and the required funding and infrastructure requirements to support this emerging property market, It’s also become a recurring theme on the Talking Transformation Podcast. uMaStandi has been working in this space since 2018 and continue to render financial services for emerging developers providing rental accommodation. As an offshoot of the Trust for Urban Housing Finance – TUHF it has targeted finance in the townships to unlock the potential of an emerging property market and addressing low-density design of government sponsored housing initiatives across the countries – with a particular focus on South Africa's metros.    I am joined by uMaStandi Portfolio Manager Nomfundo Molemohi. responsible for the Western & Eastern Cape portfolio. We are joined by her client, SAPS detective by day and property developer by night, Lizwi Ntengeshe. In this episode we deep-dive the approach and impact of this emerging market and the financial implications and opportunities afforded in the sector. What are the considerations of the funder and prospective client and what happens once the project has been green-lit and approved? It's a refreshing take on an emerging property sector and one that is undoubtedly shaping our communities across the country and providing much needed affordable rental opportunities for an underserved market. Learn more about uMastandi via: https://umastandi.co.za/ Recorded: June 12th 2024
Jun 17, 2024
59 min
TTPod 4.4: "A Hill to Die On?" Unpacking South Africa's NSDF: National Spatial Development Framework
In this episode of the Talking Transformation Podcast, our subject is South Africa's National Spatial Development Framework (NSDF) - a long-term spatial plan that sets South Africa's spatial agenda and trajectory towards 2050. As a legally mandated plan via SPLUMA, it completes the "set" of government spatial plans adding to the provincial and municipal spatial development frameworks prepared over many years. It also advances the ambitions and directives of the 2030 National Development Plan (NDP). It's a critical document for South Africa outlining the ambitions, growth and transformation objectives for urban and rural areas in South Africa. Zouna Meades and Rajesh Makan from the NSDF "champion", the Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural Development (DALRD), give us their take on the document and an in-depth assessment of the plan's process, plan and core themes. We also talk about the challenges of alignment and coherence across the spheres of government and seek to understand how planners and other built environment practitioners can embed the thinking and implementation aspects of the NSDF into their routines and work. Access the NSDF via: https://sacplan.org.za/wp-content/uploads/Booklet-NSDF.pdf Watch the YouTube video via this link: https://youtu.be/pQnaAKkUZUc?si=EiJ3pqCj-xtb_QGV Recorded 2nd May 2024
May 6, 2024
58 min
TTPod 4.3: "Future Khayelitsha" Now Now Contest #2 - in conversation with local entrepreneurs and contest co-ordinator
In August last year we were delighted to work with the fledgling Now Now Competition that used the Cape Town stadium as a focal point for its inaugural design contest. In it's second iteration the Now Now contest has shifted focus within Cape Town from Green Point to Khayelitsha's Spine Road. In this latest episode of the Talking Transformation Podcast, Sebestian Hitchcock - principal coordinator of the NowNow architecture competition - and I talk to two of the local entrepreneurs within Khayelitsha, Brian Bango a friend of the podcast and, for the first time Buntu Matole. Spine Road is a critical arterial for Cape Town linking numerous communities within and beyond Khayelitsha. It links the sands of Strandfontein in Mitchells Plain, through Rocklands and beyond Mew Way. It is recognised as a vibrant heart of the community and famed for its party and nightlife when the sun goes down! This episode unpacks some of the realities and aspirations for the road and the broader community from innovators in that space: Brian is a leading property developer and Buntu is a pioneer in the tourism field. The episode is upbeat, inspiring, and provides an excellent opportunity for the curious and prospective competition entrants alike to learn more about the opportunities of the road and requirements of the contest. Recorded: Wednesday, March 27th 2024
Apr 2, 2024
46 min
TTPod 4.2: "Hack Your Shack" - In Conversation with Marlene Lerch Co-Founder Dooiy
For our first recording of the year the Talking Transformation Podcast we are blending innovation, international and entrepreneurial flavours with our guest, Marlene Lerch co-founder of the "Dooiy" – Hack your Schack NGO. Dooiy is a fledgling non-profit organisation from Germany that operates between Berlin and South Africa. I first met Marlene whilst working with the Ranyaka NGO team operating out of Stellenbosch last year. As you’ll hear, collaboration and partnership with other NGOs and agencies with similar values and perspectives is an essential part of their operations and key to the growth of Dooiy. I was struck by the simplicity and effectiveness of “hacks” and devices that they promote via their Dooiy platform (https://dooiy.org/). Whether it’s manufacturing soap, building a washing machine or DIY fire extinguishers, the products are designed to provide effective solutions for minimal cash outlays. There are also numerous guides to assist in the growing of vegetables and cooking tips to keep families healthy and diets nutrition-rich. In addition to the health and safety benefits offered, Dooiy also seeks to provide young entrepreneurs with the chance to transform their own economic circumstances by manufacturing these items and on-selling within the community. During the first days of an extended visit to South Africa I took the time to understand the approach and ambitions of Dooiy with Marlene. Her passion and enthusiasm for the platform, products, and communities she is working with make for a great way to kick start the first month of the year and I hope you’ll enjoy the episode as much as I did recording the episode and spending time with her. Recorded 24th January 2024
Jan 29, 2024
21 min
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