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The idea behind the name, “Swimming Upstream” is that sometimes we have to go against the cultural stream. Hear Anna & Eric talk about how they live counter cultural in certain areas of their life.

Before you listen to what someone has to say about certain topics, you probably want to know them a little bit. In this introductory episode, you get to do just that! Eric & Anna talk about their individuals lives and what life looks like now as a married couple.

Listen to Anna and Eric talk through life experiences including adoption, parenting, marriage, and more.