My opening line to was “well, it’s been interesting times since we last talked at the end of January!”. Since Rod has biked himself around Aotearoa and we’ve had a virus. I promised you I’d do an annual interview with him on the state of the nation, but as Rod’s spent the past month investigating the impact of Covid-19 on our economic and business spheres, the time for another chat is now. Thanks Rod for generously sharing your insights on our response to this event in a global context - after a listen here you can read more in his recent series of columns.  This episode is a little over 52 minutes, so here’s a few cheat times so you can skip to certain bits if you’re interested in his thoughts on a particular question I asked him: