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(0:30) Creed 2...3...4, Rocky 2, Apollo seems to tire himself out before the final fight, Stallone impression, undone brain damage, can't retcon, eye damage after just one movie, Creed is a sequel spinoff reboot of Rocky, Creed 2 seems like a Rocky movie, getting revenge on the son that killed the father you never met(7:27) Rocky says Drago's son is Raw yet thinks he's dangerous enough not to fight, call back to Rocky 2 mid-fight, why does it open in Kiev?, rooting for the "bad" guys, Rocky needing prove the 1st fight wasn't a fluke, fighting in Adonis' DNA, line in Rocky 2 that didn't age well(13:09) Last week on...Rocky, Halloween 2 continuing right off last film's ending, Michael Myers gets away, Chucky can still kill you just as a head, Adonis is a jerk & a side character in his own movie, Rocky is a lughead yet so genuine, the worry that you will pass on a physical disorder to your child, tinnitus in A Star is Born,(19:32) Story structure, Did Hulk Hogan vs Rocky birth the UFC, Rocky defeating Apollo in a foot race, problem with Rocky 3 fights, Clubber Lang shouts "Stallone" before the fight, Rocky in the 1st two films looks like he ate 10 bowls of pasta before the fight, Creed 2 has too many big fights!!!, Spyder Dad is the true villain of the 1st Creed, Rocky doesn't block yet Apollo only jabs him, still gets 65 punches to the head per round(29:48) Creed 2 can't be written by Stallone, how to shoot the fight scenes, addressing Creed bulking up & the downsides of being so big, moving up in weight classes, cutting weight, have a Mexican fighter from first film come back as the antagonist in Creed 3(38:32) Rocky doesn't want to fight again, going from a failure to accomplishing a major feat to then return back to being a failure again, Andre Ward as the antagonist of Creed 2, plan to have a real Ward fight at the same time as Creed 2 premiere,(43:02) Carter retells the Deontay Wilder vs Tyson Fury brawl!, great names, Gypsy Kings vs Gypsy King, Brad Pitt in Snatch, Hayden Panetierre, Columbian Neck tie, The Counselor(49:35) can't throw a right hook, Carter & Forrest's pitch to fix Creed 2: Drago fight was actually a fake out & only in the opening, Wheeler is the main fight, still too many sons, Dolph training Wheeler to kill Adonis, love for fight introductions(55:27) tie-in Russia meddling in our politics since Creed wears American flag shorts, Trump cameo, replacing Max Kellerman with Bryan Callen, feels like Kellerman is the narrator & lead of the film, Drago & Rocky reunion fell flat, too many big moments & not enough small moments, comparing Adrian to Bianca, don't think these characters would have gotten married & have kids, thought an abortion was coming—( 1:05:45) Rocky showing up at hospital, Wood Harris' character was the worst trainer, scenes in the trailer not in the finished film, ignores Rocky Balboa son storyline completely, Apollo as Muhammad Ali, Rocky as the anti-movie star, comparing it to A Star is Born, wanted more Philly & LA in Creed 2, Quentin Tarantino thinks Rocky 2 better than Rocky, "Win"!(1:15:46) Biggest pitfalls most sequels follow, Adonis is fighting for ego while Drago is fighting for his home, what's the arc?, no closure, needed more levity & humor, every scene doesn't need to be a home run, modeling a fighter off of Khabib, Forrest wants to be mauled by a bear, Golovkin, Connor McGregor, great white hope