Avast! This episode dives to the briny deep of the Golden Age of Sail. British Royal Navy expert and maritime historian Cheryl Jones gives a rundown of what makes the period of the 17th and 18th centuries so appealing all these many years later. Get ready for naval excurions, pirates, and what it means to reach Pro Nerd. See what else Cheryl has going on at @moviesmademepod.

Sitting down with Jake Lloyd (no relation to last episode's guest Sarah) and talking about the big, hulking spectacle of pro wrestling, dissecting the appeal of the WWE and others, from the operatic dynamics to the show stopping performances. Follow and talk wrestling with Jake on Twitter @liquidjake and check out his own podcasting network and his own show, Elaborate, at https://www.dragonwagonradio.com/