So Into That
So Into That
Caro Chambers
Substack's #1 food & drink writer invites some of her favorite people to share what they're into right now… whether that's a book, show, recipe, beauty hack... or an approach to marriage and parenting, community, or friendship. Conversations about finding easier and better ways to do (and enjoy) life. Learn more at whattocook.substack.com. whattocook.substack.com
'the idea of you' author robinne lee reacts to the movie adaptation and the new ending
Get this week's full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/the-idea-of-you-author-robinne-leeThe Idea of You was a book that changed the way I read. I absolutely loved it. I recommend it all the time. And it was my gateway drug into the romance genre… although, as its author Robinne Lee shares in this episode, she never intended to write a romance novel (nor does she consider it to be one).The Idea of You really is about much more than meets the eye. As Robinne wrote in this Time article, the book grapples with themes including “ageism, sexism, the double standard, motherhood, female friendship, agency, and the dark side of celebrity.” And now that it’s been turned into a hit movie starring Anne Hathaway, it’s the perfect time to hear from Robinne herself.If you haven’t read the book or seen the movie yet (BTW, I really recommend reading the book first!), it follows the relationship between a 40-year-old single mom and art gallery owner (Solène) and a boy-band lead singer 16 years her junior (Hayes). In the podcast, we talk about the inspiration for the book (it’s not Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde, y’all); the tension between motherhood, romantic love, and career; what she wishes was different about the movie; and much more.We also get into:* Her hustling for 7 years to sell the book, copy by copy* Why she ended the story the way she did* Writing sex scenes and why she doesn’t see TIOY as a romance novel* Anne Hathaway and Nicholas Galitzine’s performances in the movie* A tantalizing tease about her next bookWhether you’re a fan of The Idea of You or not (yet!), I’m so excited for you to get to know Robinne, who is also a talented actor and overall smart and fascinating woman.PS: I know I said So Into That episodes are going to air every other week now, but the world is currently *loving* The Idea of You, so I didn’t want to sit on this interview!! Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
May 15, 2024
55 min
how to get rich AF, with vivian tu (@your.richbff)
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/how-to-get-rich-af-with-vivian-tuVivian Tu (Your Rich BFF) is here, and she’s here to make us smarter about personal finance like we’re out for margaritas.No condescension. No jargon. Just tons of actionable tips, no matter your income or family situation.You might know Vivian from Instagram, where her personal finance videos go viral on the reg. But not everything can fit into a 60-second clip… so she’s written a new book called Rich AF. Today, we tackle everything from negotiating a raise, to “the talk” she recommends stay-at-home parents have with their income-earning partner, to the website that could reunite you with hundreds or thousands of dollars that are rightfully yours (really!).Get ready to learn more about making and managing money in an hour than you did in 20 years of school!We also get into:• What to do when it feels like bachelorette parties and weddings are bankrupting you• Why talking about money more usually makes you richer• Why she doesn’t believe in splitting rent 50/50• Advice for stay-at-home moms who feel left in the dark about money• Step-by-step salary negotiation tactics• High-yield savings accounts• Hiring your kids (!) to lower your taxable income• And much moreLinks: • Vivian’s new book, Rich AF: The Winning Money Mindset That Will Change Your Life - https://www.yourrichbff.com/richaf• Vivian’s website: https://www.yourrichbff.com/• Vivian’s Substack, Enriched - https://yourrichbff.substack.com/• Vivian’s podcast, Networth and Chill• Vivian’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/your.richbff/?hl=en• Vivian’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@yourrichbff?lang=en• MissingMoney.com - https://www.missingmoney.com/ Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
May 8, 2024
1 hr
ask me anything! mom jealousy, toddler tantrums, money, and more
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/so-into-that-ask-me-anythingIf you follow me on Instagram, you know I do the occasional “question box” style Ask Me Anything there. Well, today I’m bringing that format to the pod – and you sent in some juicy ones.This Q&A gets into:• Workout motivation with young kids• How do I deal with “mom guilt” as a working mom?• Toddler tantrums• Deciding whether to have another child?!• Will we stay in California forever?• Ghostwriting cookbooks • My brother? (yes, I have one!)• And more!Links: • Emma Lovewell on So Into That - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/pelotons-emma-lovewell-is-so-into• Cameron Rogers episode - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/efficiency-hacks-the-transition-from• Gaby Dalkin episode - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/gaby-dalkin-is-so-into-mastering• Eat to Beat Depression and Anxiety by Drew Ramsey, MD - https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Beat-Depression-Anxiety-Nourish/dp/006303171X• Expecting Better by Emily Oster - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/310896/expecting-better-by-emily-oster/• Final scene of Mad Men (spoilers, obv) - https://youtu.be/Exf63KPXF6w?si=5J3nO7dPQTZcda3s Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Apr 24, 2024
33 min
angela santomero, the creator of blues clues and daniel tiger, won't mom shame you about screen time
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/angela-santomero-the-creator-of-bluesAs the creator of Daniel Tiger’s Neighborhood on PBS, Angela Santomero may be the person most responsible for getting my family through the pandemic with our sanity intact. The show was (and still is) a lifesaver in moments when George or I needed a break from hands-on parenting, and its musical life lessons have become part of our toddlers’ lexicon.Today, I get the chance to thank Angela in person! And you get to hear about the early childhood development principles behind her Emmy award-winning work. Plus, her take on screen time for kids; working with the real-life Mr. Rogers; and two wise pieces of advice for parents of young kids.We also get into:• Why Daniel Tiger doesn’t wear pants (but Mom Tiger does)• How Angela developed the show (and Blue’s Clues before that)• How music and repetition help kids learn• Advice she’d give to her younger self (now that her daughters are in their 20s)Links: • Angela’s new book, Life Clues - https://angelasclues.com/• Her Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/angelasclues/?hl=en• Her TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@angelasclues• Her new show, Dee & Friends in Oz on Netflix - https://www.netflix.com/title/81223055 Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Apr 17, 2024
56 min
carly duguid on building the brand of naomi osaka
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/carly-duguid-on-building-the-brandCarly Phillips Duguid is my former college classmate, a What to Cook subscriber, and… oh yeah, the co-founder of the sports agency Evolve, along with her husband and 4-time grand slam winner Naomi Osaka.Today, Carly shares how she’s “embracing the pure chaos” of parenting a 4-year-old and a 4-month-old while serving as Naomi’s right hand woman – from helping design her Nike apparel, to laying the groundwork for a post-tennis career in fashion, to crafting the look of Naomi’s recent historic baby formula commercial.We also get into:- How Carly’s second kid changed her mind about work-from-home “interruptions”- The story of meeting her husband, Stu (it’s romance novel material)- What Naomi’s like off the court and how that’s changed since she became a mom- How Carly structures her day and her childcare setup - What she cooks when she doesn’t feel like cookingLinks: - Evolve - https://www.instagram.com/thisisevolve/?hl=en- Carly’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/carlsterthebalster/- Silver Spring hot pilates - https://silverspringsla.com/- Naomi’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/carlsterthebalster/- Naomi’s Bobbie Formula commercial - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkCrOea3aA- Her Nike apparel line - https://www.nike.com/w/naomi-osaka-tennis-clothing-4an2mz6ymx6zed1q- mango peanut chicken salad recipe - https://whattocook.substack.com/p/mango-peanut-chicken-salad-635 Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Apr 10, 2024
1 hr 20 min
i found the perfect reading for a wedding ceremony or toast
Get this week’s full So Into That newsletter here! https://whattocook.substack.com/p/i-found-the-perfect-reading-for-aToday I share what I’ve been so into lately: entertaining versus having people over, a great new lipstick, etc.Plus, the insane story of how I heard a beautiful poem read at a wedding and immediately knew who the author was (it's not someone famous, and I'd never heard the poem before!).I also get into:PMS getting way worse with age, kids, or both (my “so out on”)Traveling to Austin for my mom’s 70th birthday (but missing the solar eclipse!)My IRL LOL of the week involving my son, high off Easter candy sugar, and the word “dragon”What I’ve been cooking lately and my trick for getting my kids to eat itLinks: Merit Matte LipstickThe Need by Helen Phillipsbeef enchilada casserole recipe Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Apr 3, 2024
26 min
jess damuck is a salad freak and a health nut and she's got the books to prove it!
Dinner party tips. Healthy meals with Trader Joe’s ingredients. Stories involving Martha Stewart, Sufjan Stevens, and Sia?This conversation with Jess Damuck has all of the above and more, and I’m bringing it to you a day after the launch of her gorgeous new book, Health Nut: A Feel-Good Cookbook.If you’ve seen Salad Freak, you know how beautiful Jess’ work is. Which makes sense considering she spent years working directly with – and learning from – Martha Stewart.Amazingly, Jess wrote not one but two cookbooks in the past year. And when we caught up in Los Angeles a couple weeks ago, we talked about both of them, plus:* Making 47 plaster sculptures for Sia (really!)* What she learned working for Martha Stewart and Bon Appétit* Minimizing the number of dishes we use in meals* Embracing living in L.A. and hosting artists and entertainers* Why “health” can be a loaded word and what it means to her* The tofu stir fry she cooks when she doesn’t feel like cookingLinks:* Health Nut: A Feel-Good Cookbook* Salad Freak: Recipes to Feed a Healthy Obsession* Open Wide: A Cookbook for Friends (Benny Blanco book out April 2024)* Jess’ Instagram* Smoked soy sauce* Kettle Soba Cha buckwheat tea* High Maintenance, the HBO show Jess’ partner Ben created and starred in* Dave, the FX show Ben directed* Ram Dass’ spiritual sanctuary in MauiGet full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Mar 27, 2024
1 hr 17 min
eve rodsky's "fair play" method for dividing household labor will improve your marriage
I love each and every guest we’ve had on this show, but I’m just gonna say it: for me at least, this episode is probably the most important and relevant one we’ve done yet. Today we have Eve Rodsky, the Harvard-trained author of Fair Play: A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live).I personally credit Eve’s ideas – and the playing cards that help you implement them – with making the “invisible work” of running my own household visible, and equitably dividing that work with my husband.As you’ll hear today, Eve embarked on this journey to find answers to her own problem. After becoming a mom of two, she watched as she became the default doer of the things, all while feeling sidelined in her career and “abandoned” by her husband (whom she still loved).In other words, her “Sh*t I Do” list grew longer and longer without any real discussion of who should actually do what.Fair Play is the antidote to that problem, and this episode breaks down the method in detail. You’ll come away equipped to start a conversation with your partner; identify and fairly divide responsibilities; create space for yourself; and ultimately live a happier, healthier life.Eve and I also get into:* Why household labor tends to be so unequal* Men over-reporting and women under-reporting their contributions* How to raise this topic with your partner* What Fair Play looks like in action in my own marriage* “He’s the income earner. So shouldn’t I handle everything in the home?”* Understanding the different types of labor (daily grind vs. on your own time)* Hard-to-define responsibilities like spirituality and “magic” (tooth fairy, etc.)* Why it’s so important to own a task completely* Eve’s key to staying happy even as you shoulder more responsibility in lifeLinks: * Fair Play book* Fair Play cards* Fair Play documentary* Eve’s second book, Find Your Unicorn Space* Eve’s podcast with Dr. Aditi NerurkarSubscribe to my weekly recipe newsletter here: https://whattocook.substack.com Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Mar 20, 2024
1 hr 14 min
gaby dalkin of what's gaby cooking on building her food empire + remaining positive through nine miscarriages
I am a longtime Gaby Dalkin lover, and you will soon be, too! She is charming, hard-working, smart, and just a good, kind human. Trigger warning: like the title says, Gaby has experienced 9 miscarriages. She copes with this with humor and levity, so if that's not something you wish to hear right now, skip this one.We also get into:* How Gaby structures her typical day* Dividing responsibilities with her husband* Her IVF journey and miscarriages* Why grilling is seen as a man’s game and why it’s actually so enjoyable* Why she loves the Netflix show Formula 1: Drive to Survive and how she landed a bougie AF trip to Italy to watch a race!* The tacos she makes when she doesn’t feel like cookingLinks: * What’s Gaby Cooking* Formula 1: Drive to SurviveSign up for my weekly recipe newsletter here: https://whattocook.substack.com/ Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Mar 13, 2024
1 hr 28 min
jessa hastings, author of the magnolia parks universe, doesn't follow the rules
OMFG — Jessa freaking Hastings is on So Into That this week!!!!!Jessa is the brilliant author of the Magnolia Parks book series, and whether or not you’ve read them, I know you’ll love getting to know her and hearing about her path to mega-book-fame.I can’t stop thinking about the unwavering faith that Jessa had in herself that these books would someday be a success, despite so many people telling her no along the way. If you’ve ever wanted to put something out into the world but hit speed bumps along the way, I know her story will be as inspirational to you as it is to me. Whether you’ve read Magnolia Parks or not, you’ll love getting to know Jessa and hearing her talk about “downloading” ideas out of thin air, blacking out while writing, what she reads and watches for inspiration, and navigating the wild world of “Bookstagram” and “BookTok” where everyone’s a critic.Also – if you haven’t read the books; heed my spoiler alert about 15 minutes from the end!We also get into:* Where Jessa gets her ideas* Trusting her instincts, self-publishing, and going viral* The DMs she gets from her very invested fans* Drawing on her personal experience with grief to write Magnolia’s book 5 experience* Trying to get spoilers out of Jessa — “Will there be another wedding? Will someone die?!”* The meaning of the last sentence of Book 5* What Jessa’s so into (and out on) right nowLinks: * Jessa’s Instagram* Buy the Magnolia Parks books here* Pre-order my book hereListen to this episode on your favorite podcast app: Get full access to What To Cook When You Don't Feel Like Cooking at whattocook.substack.com/subscribe
Mar 6, 2024
1 hr 33 min
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