Richard Smoley is a respect religious scholar who thinks magic is real. Click here for Riochard Smoley’s Website Click here for forum Discussion Skeptiko-495-Richard-Smoley Audio Clip: [00:00:00] You mean I have to live out the rest of my life in this body? No fucking way. You got me into this, you get me out. I can’t do that Chucky. Why not? Cause you’re an abomination. An outbreak against nature. Now you prefer to take everything I’ve taught you and use it for evil, and you have to be stopped. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:29] That’s Chucky from, I don’t know, one of my Chucky movies. And he’s consulting with the Voodoo doctor that got him into this mess in the first place. Of course, this is more movie fantasy. But again, is it? For anyone who’s really studied magic very much like today’s awesome guests, Richard Smoley, the lines can get rather blurry. You reference black magic, that’s going to be, immediately that’s where everyone goes? Richard Smoley: [00:01:02] Well I think there is a certain reality to it. Irish taxi driver in Honolulu, who got involved with a native Hawaiian girl and her mother really did not like this at all. She told him whole off but he didn’t. And he suddenly started to become subject to paralysis from the feet up little by little by little by little. So then someone who was familiar with these things said, I think there might be some magic involved here, let me go and talk to this mother. I don’t know, maybe there is maybe not but I think that maybe if he gets on the next boat to the mainland things will be alright. And you know, that evening, this cab driver was right and took the next boat to San Francisco. Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:51] And speaking of blurry lines, what happens when we apply that same sensibility to Oh, Christianity, Is Jesus an egregore? Richard Smoley: [00:02:04] No, I think Jesus was a historical figure and… Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:08] Is Christ Consciousness an egregore because Jesus as a historical figure is kind of a cop out. I mean,Bart Ehrman, who is essentially an atheist thinks Jesus is a historical figure too. He was some wandering guy who went around and said a couple of things. You almost come to the point of saying that in the book, the truth about magic, you say the Christian Gods can best be understand as an egregore. The Tibetan Buddhists call it a Tulpa. Richard Smoley: [00:02:35] I wouldn’t say so. Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:37] This is a great level three chat with a truly remarkable researcher and knowledgeable guy. I gave him a pretty hard time, but I have the ultimate respect for Richard. Let’s get right to the interview. Welcome to Skeptiko where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. Today we welcome Richard Smoely to Skeptiko. Richard of course,is a Harvard and Oxford trained scholar in religion and philosophy, and a recognized expert on all sorts of stuff related to Christian mysticism, Gnosticism, Theosophy and all other kinds of stuff that we like to talk about here on Skeptiko. Richard has a new book out The Truth About Magic, which I’m sure we’ll talk quite a bit about. But I’m hoping we can also get him to talk about some of his other research and some of his other work, particularly one that I’ve referenced before on this show and in my book, How God Became God, what scholars are really saying about God and the Bible,
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Dr. Bruce Greyson’s patients told him about NDEs, and he listened. Click here for Bruce Greyson’s Website Click here for forum Discussion Skeptiko-494-Bruce-Greyson Audio Clip:[00:00:01] Do you want to have fun with me later? Courtney Holmes, I am mildly surprised. But offer accepted. Midnight, basement, at level C. What’s going on? I would like you to stop my heart. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:15] That’s a clip from the movie Flat liners, it’s actually a remake of the 90s movie. They remade it again in 2017, which you would think with all the enormous amount of research that’s been done, a near death experience, much of it influenced or done by today’s amazing guest Dr. Bruce Greyson. Well you’d think with all that science, some of it would make it into this movie but of course it doesn’t. Again it’s movie, so they’re trying to be entertaining, I guess that’s what they’re trying to do or maybe they’re trying to influence culture a little bit, I don’t know. You know I’m hesitant, I have this great interview coming up and this guy is fantastic. Bruce Greyson, he is such an enormous, such an important figure in near death experience research science. But at the same time I can’t help but feel, and I really hammered on this in this interview, that he’s a little bit, what would you call it when a group of people are dishonest? I mean, provably dishonest over and over again, what do you call them? I know what I call them. But it turns out it’s not the same as what today’s guest Dr. Bruce Greyson calls them. Here’s a clip from the interview. Audio Clip: [00:01:36] I just failed to believe that Dr Watt is sitting there doing any kind of real research that would compel her to respond to your paper. So her response going through all the trouble, and then having the right connections to immediately zipping it through a peer review process. It doesn’t seem genuine. Doctors and scientists are just like everybody else. I think the vast majority of these quote, debunkers are people who really believe what they’re saying, who are so locked into their prejudice that they can’t accept the reality of anything else. So I think most of these people are acting out of honesty with their own wrong beliefs. Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:18] Welcome to Skeptiko, where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. I’m your host Alex Tsakiris and today, today, we got a biggie. We have Dr. Bruce Greyson here, he has a new book titled After and we’ll get into that in a minute. But I just want to pick up on the After thing. Because I really, really love the title of that. I just think when you take a big step back you know, we’ve talked about this on the show. But if you look at not just our culture but every culture we know of throughout history, there has been this, fascination doesn’t really capture it but this deep knowing that the afterlife is key to not only understanding a deeper part of who we are but a deeper part of what we need to be or maybe what we can be in this life. So Dr. Greyson’s amazing work over his 40 year career as one of the truly pioneers and leading researchers in near death experience science, has been part of this really game changing science that has taken this deep fascination we have in the afterlife and applied science to it and kind of broken through in some ways ...
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David Brody looks at the substantial archeological evidence of 2nd century Romans in America. Click here for David Brody’s Website Click here for forum Discussion Audio Clip: [00:00:00] We running on water supplies and I’m tired. If we can’t beat this bunch we might as well give up, its been 47 days now. Dammit! That’s how long the journal said it would last. I got it from one of the prisoners I had. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:15] Don’t you just love the Romans? I know I do. That’s a short clip from a BBC documentary on Ancient Rome and that’s the Spasian talking about those pesky Jews that he’s trying to put down in the first revolt in 66 AD. And most importantly, he’s talking about that strange prisoner general Josephus, who makes all these amazing predictions. Boy oh boy, I don’t know where to begin folks, you’re gonna hear a lot on this history of Josephus, The Spasian, the fake fake history that’s told to us that can be demonstrated is fake and can be demonstrated has some deep, deep implications for what the real history probably was. It would take a long time to fill in all the gaps and I can’t really do it here, you’re going to get bits and pieces like you normally do in this show and maybe you can help guide me towards how we can compile this into something meaningful. Maybe you can even help, maybe you know more about these topics than I do. There are many of you out there that I know have some very specialized knowledge. But I have a terrific interview to kick off this series. It’s with a gentleman I really like and respect. And I think he’s written a great book that you’ll enjoy. And he certainly has a fascinating story to tell about the Romans in America in the second century. And he has, I would say, overwhelming archaeological evidence at least compared to the mainstream historical narrative which I got to tell you when we get into this with Dave, but like one little story he tells is he has all this solid archaeology he’s done, coins that he’s found, forts that he’s uncovered or the army core of engineers have uncovered which date back to the second century, date back to being in the hands of the Romans and date back to having connections with Jewish people. And what he faces, an opposition to that research from the mainstream, the ordained history is unbelievably ridiculous. Like again, I want to tell you this little story, like one of the explanations from mainstream history, in terms of how these coins from the second century wind up in the Ohio Valley is, well maybe a bird flew over you know, and had the coin in his beak and dropped it, how stupid is that? Yeah, maybe there was a flock of birds and they all had coins and they dropped them in and around the same place. Another explanation, this is from mainstream history, in order to prop up the ridiculous narrative that they need to promote on this is maybe a coin collector went to the beach and lost his coins on the beach and then they got washed up and they got found. Like yeah you know, hey we’re going to the beach, please swing by my safe deposit box and pick up my collection of golden Roman coins. What’s, you know it’s funny except that this really is kind of what we sometimes square up against when we’re dealing with mainstream history and religious history,
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Chris Knowles examines the meaning behind our cultures rituals. Click here for Chris Knowles’s Website Click here for forum Discussion Skeptiko-492-Chris-Knowles 73PLKb426WNzgEpwJ2vN Audio Clip: [00:00:00] We can’t afford to have a Toga party. You guys up for a Toga party? Toga! Toga! I think they like the idea of it. Oh Otter please don’t do this. I’ve got news for your pal, they’re gonna nail us no matter what we do, so we might as well have a good time. Toga , Toga , Toga … Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:26] That’s a classic clip from Animal House, where John Belushi and his fraternity brothers realize that the only response to the totalitarian rule of the dean is to throw a Roman toga party. I’m going to be going back to the Romans time and time again and to kick it off, here’s a clip from my upcoming interview with Chris Knowles. Chris Knowles: [00:00:53] And you know one thing that I keep saying and I’m sure maybe a lot of your listeners will just think I’m insane but really, a lot of what this is all about is about restoring a state cults much the same as what we saw in ancient Rome. So when you take that, the ritualism which we see at every Super Bowl now, and every Oscar now, and you combine it with this cultic gas-lighting, with this mask conditioning into like this Invasion of the Body Snatchers reality, and they go together because they’re all moving towards the same goal. And the mask is the annihilation of individuality which is you know, it’s a prime aspect of any cult throughout history. Audio Clip: [00:01:41] Welcome to Skeptiko where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. I’m your host Alex Tsakiris and today we welcome back one of my favorite scally wags of the alternative media and the author of a new book that we’re going to talk about The Endless American Midnight. Chris Knowles is here to join us, Chris welcome back. Thanks so much for joining me, I want to pull up on the screen this fantastic new book because what I want to tell people is you know, a lot of folks are very familiar with your kind of essential read blog, The Secret Sun. And we see on there that you’ve actually started a new Institute jump, jumping on the bandwagon there but some deep state stuff there. But what you’ve done here with this new book, The Endless American Midnight which I didn’t quite get why you would do it initially. But then I thought about it a little bit more and you know it’s like there’s so much stuff packed in The Secret Sun. And those of us like me, who just dive into this and sometimes can’t even get out of it, it’s so deep and it takes you in so many places, that once in a while, it’s good to be able to kind of curl up on the couch with a book and kind of go through this stuff in a different format. Is that, was that partially what you had in mind? Chris Knowles: [00:03:20] Well people have been asking me for a very long time to do a book of secrets on work. And I just could never really figure out how to approach it because I have 1000s of posts going back 15 years now and it’s just, it’s very intimidating and overwhelming even for myself, even though I’m familiar with the material. So I just had a real hard time trying to put it in context and luckily, sort of 2020 did that for me. Yeah, the material I chose, because I was looking around at 2020,
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Robert Bonomo’s new film spans the parapolitical to the spiritual Click here for Robert Bonomo’s Website Click here for Twilight of the Archons Forum Discussion Audio Clip: [00:00:00] We have become prisoners of our fears and desires. But to what end? Is the entire meaning of modern life to simply seek pleasure and avoid pain? Is this enough to live? In our past, there were hidden esoteric paths that guided the wise through the matrix of control. But these ancient learning’s have become obscured by pseudo transcendent materialism and false prophets. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:25] That’s from a movie by today’s guest, Robert Bonomo who has a lot to say not only about the situation we find ourselves in, but how to transcend it. Stick around, I think you’ll enjoy this conversation. Welcome to Skeptiko, where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. I’m your host Alex Tsakiris and today I welcome back my Dharma brother, Robert Bonomo to Skeptiko. You know, we’re just chatting a minute ago, I feel like I’ve known Robert, I have known him for a long time, it seems even longer and it seems like I’ve had him on the show a bunch of times but I really haven’t, I’ve only had him on the show once. But I’ve listened to a ton of his interviews. He’s out there on a lot of the folks that I like to talk to and listen to and are part of this community. And he’s always cranking out some of these incredible new films of his. His latest I have up on the screen, Twilight of the Archons, a deep dive into the manipulation of money in consciousness, by the powers that control our daily lives. This is a good one really, really great film and you can watch it for free on YouTube, how you’re going to beat that deal. Robert can be found at CactusLand.com where if you go there and I’m scrolling through now you can see him, some of his previous films, some of his books, he’s a novelist, he’s also a university lecture and he’s a blogger, and is just really, really, really an interesting creative guy, but also has this very grounded background in kind of real world stuff. We’re just talking about a minute ago you know, MBA from Boston University, very successful in internet marketing in a former life. So he, I think that’s why I say he’s my Dharma brother cause I get him on so many levels. And it’s almost like this free flow of kind of exchange and hopefully we’ll have that today right Robert? Robert Bonomo: [00:02:49] Yeah, I think it’s true because we have somewhat similar backgrounds and when we look at, for things like artificial intelligence, one side of me said yeah you know, the Archons but the other side’s like, wow, I could make so much money with this stuff. Alex Tsakiris: [00:03:11] Exactly and you know, I mean if you want to, we’re gonna get there really soon. I don’t necessarily want to jump there right from the beginning because that’s what I thought we would do is, you don’t have a trailer per se on the movie and there’s no reason to have a trailer, you can go watch YouTube. Robert Bonomo: [00:03:28] There is a trailer on the YouTube channel, I made a real short one but it’s about 40 seconds but it doesn’t really say much ,
Dr. Dan Wilson has a doctorate in biology, but misfires on the science to public health policy link. Click here for Dr. Dan Wilson’s YouTube channel Click here for Forum Discussion Audio Clip: [00:00:00] Hold. For what? Explain your sneeze. I’m sorry. Do you have allergies? No. Is there too much pepper on your salad? I don’t put pepper on salads. I’ve heard enough sit over there. I don’t want to sit by myself. That’s what typhoid Mary said and clearly her friends buckled. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:19] I have a really interesting interview coming up with Dr. Dan Wilson. Interesting to me because going into this, I thought it was going to be a hardcore discussion about COVID-19 mask science. And what it really turned into maybe is just a discussion of how far the science cow has left the barn. Dr. Dan Wilson: [00:00:46] I would say that when it comes to mask use you know, there are general principles that we can pull from the literature. And we know from a laboratory setting that face masks reduce the number of infectious viral particles that escaped from the nose and mouth into the environment. That is perfectly logical. Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:04] I have to interject. I know you’re making that remark but I kind of nailed that. I mean, who cares? That doesn’t, just that we get, and the fact that it gets repeated over and over again, like you just did with some kind of mantra mesmerizing thing. It’s science bullshit. It doesn’t have anything to do with answering the question am I safer wearing a mask? It doesn’t answer that because it doesn’t relate to how it works with other humans. It’s just, it’s science bullshit. Dr. Dan Wilson: [00:01:34] Well I would disagree, I think it’s a really important part of the puzzle. You know, like you said at the beginning, it’s important to see whether or not something works in a lab setting. And that’s usually the first thing that scientists do before going and testing it further with more research… Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:48] But no one had any doubt whether it would work. Its home ice, no one had any doubt that if I put, if I do that, it does the same thing. If I cover my mouth when I cough, stuff doesn’t come out. To elevate it to this level of advanced refined science to say that if you cover somebody’s mouth, they stuff doesn’t come out of it when they sneeze is a total head fake bullshit way of kind of wrapping all this nonsense in science, the conclusion is it was inconclusive. The conclusion is at last year’s Super Bowl when the Chiefs won, no one had to wear a mask because no one was told to wear a mask, because that’s what the best science said, and there hasn’t been a wave of science that would change that. Welcome to Skeptiko where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. Boy oh boy, I have a good one today. Really been looking forward to this. Dr. Dan Wilson, Debunk the Funk with Dr. Wilson is his YouTube channel. He is joining us today to have a COVID-19 mask science, throw down, knock down, drag out. Dan is a PhD in molecular biology from Carnegie Mellon translate as he’s really, really smart. Dr. Dan Wilson: [00:01:48] I don’t know about that… Alex Tsakiris: [00:03:19] You will find that he is really… Dr. Dan Wilson: [00:03:23] I took a particular path a...
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Dan Shukis reminds us we must first save ourselves. Click here for the Cosmic Key Podcast Click here for Forum Discussion dan-shukis-cosmic-skeptiko That’s a clip from one of my favorite guilty pleasure. Reality shows alone. Edit as a strange connection in so many ways with today’s interview, with cosmic keys, podcaster, Dan shuka Sue. I have to apologize again because. This episode has been hanging in my basket to get out for the longest time, but it’s out now. And I really, really think it’s an interesting conversation on so many levels. Here’s a clip. Dan Shukis: [00:00:46] (ll) When you shine a light into a dark room, it lights up the whole room. It’s a weird time for. Kind of preaching these like spiritual love messages, because so, so many things are topsy turvy, but I, I sorta think it’s extremely individualistic and you have to save yourself. You have to be accountable for yourself and know how powerful that is because these evil forces really, , can’t handle it and they’ll, they’ll go away. The more people embrace love. Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:22] skeptical, where we explore countries. You’ll science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. I’m your host, Alex Securus. And today we welcome Dan chukkas of the cosmic keys podcast here to the skeptic hoe layer. Dan was nice enough to have me on his show, cosmic keys a few weeks ago. And we had a really great time had a really good conversation about some interesting stuff that I dunno. I don’t think it’s talked about enough, so we both wanted to continue it. So we thought we’d bring the conversation over here. Dan. Welcome. Thanks for joining me. Dan Shukis: [00:02:07] Yeah, thanks for having me, Alex. It’s an honor, because, uh, as I told you in our interview on cosmic keys, I’ve been listening to skeptical for a while now. And I never thought I never thought you would want to talk to me about stuff. So thanks for having me. I’m honored. Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:25] Never know what? I never know quite what to say. They’re honored to talk to me, but that’s cool. I’ll go with it. I’ll roll with it. So for, for folks who don’t know, you know, tell us who is Dan shukas and tell us about cosmic. Key’s gone through a couple iterations. Tell folks what you’re doing over there these days, but first, who are you? Dan Shukis: [00:02:48] Yeah, well, um, God, I don’t know where to start. So I, I grew up, well, we talked about this on my show as well. I grew up outside of Chicago, same area as you, Alex, we both went to the same high school. Um, And I started cosmic keys with a co-host Scarlet Ravens wood. Who’s kind of in like the Neo pagan, spiritual new age community. And I had been interested in these spiritual topics, um, for my whole life. And when I met Scarlet, she kind of, because she was already out there. In the public with her YouTube channel and her social media stuff. She was already talking about these topics. Openly. And at the time I was pretty nervous to put myself out there and speak about these things, but we kind of pair it up with cosmic keys with me doing the astrology forecast for the week ahead and her doing a tarot reading for the week ahead. And we talked to a lot of. A lot of similar people that you talk to, people that are in spiritual paranormal kind of metaphysical communities. And, um,
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Niles Heckman’s new documentary takes a fresh look at modern shamans. Click here for Shamans of the Global Village website Click here for Forum Discussion Niles-Heckman-Skeptiko Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:00] So I know you’ve heard about this, I mean everyone’s heard about this. Audio Clip: [00:00:04] So what happened the first time that you smoked the Medicine ? I just felt this white light, this dissolution of my self. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:14] It’s like a cultural meme on The Simpsons, the toad and – Fractals, and sacred geometry and energy- But did you know it’s frickin real – In connection with my breath? Audio Clip: [00:00:31] Okay, right, I want to show you the product of the College of the Medicine of this year. This is what the natives and us have collect so far, and I want to explain you the process of how we collect and do the medicine. So that looks like a lot of medicine. This is a lot of medicine. This has been collect of maybe 1000 of toads. 1000 toads. Maybe around 10 days. Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:04] On today’s show, which is long, long overdue and I have to apologize to Niles and Rak for taking so long to get this out. Especially since their documentary film series Shamans of the Global Village is so truly, truly amazing, remarkable stuff that I really hope you go watch. Here’s a clip from an interview with Niles. What do you think of that science of entheogens? Niles Heckman: [00:01:33] Each of the different entheogens has kind of a different flavor to them. So it’s been spoken of, for example, but like psilocybin mushrooms are very like cosmic and alien and then the other type of DMT which we highlight, which you mentioned as the white light in Episode One is very much like this kind of hay drawn of hyperspace that merges into the guy in you know Godhead type dynamic of fusing back into the light. And then other met indigenous medicines such as like peyote and the cacti have a very kind of masculine desert energy to them and it’s probably several things of what you hit on there. One is probably like the history and the genealogy of your people, where your people come from, what you resonate with in terms of which medicine maybe your ancestors practice with. Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:22] Welcome to Skeptiko where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers, and their critics. I’m your host Alex Tsakiris and today we welcome Niles Heckman to Skeptiko. Niles is a truly amazing filmmaker, documentarian and a photographer, and a bunch of other stuff. You’re gonna see in a minute the stunningly beautiful documentary series he’s done, Shamans of the Global Village. He’s also a blogger of podcaster, communicator and I’m popping up his website here. But there’s so many interesting things to talk about. He likes to put it in this category of ageless wisdom. Some people are calling and theologians the topic that we might pigeonhole it into. But there’s all kinds of stuff related to this that I think are just particularly interesting and really respect that deeply intellectual way. He’s taking this, trying to tie it with other things and contrasting it with what some people in the occult community are saying and all that and I really appreciate it, that the broad perspective that he seems to be bringing all this. So Niles, it’s really cool to have you on,
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Dr. Doug Matzke, has a PhD in quantum computing… he gets the physics to extended consciousness link. Click here for Dr, Doug Matzke’s website Click here for Forum Discussion Audio Clip: [00:00:00] It’s completely safe. Sure it is. Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:10] That’s a clip from the Netflix series Black Mirror. That particular episode is Ark Angel about a overzealous parent who suffers the unintended consequences of using some really cool technology to make her daughter’s life better and more safe. Of course, I could have picked just about any episode of black mirror to highlight the dystopian, 1984 Orwellian future that so many are predicting will come with technology advances. But what is different about this show, and what I’m super excited to bring you about this show is we’re going to talk to someone, Quantum Doug, Dr. Quantum Doug, who really has the chops, PhD in quantum computing, over 20 years experience as a senior member of the technical staff of Texas Instruments and Doug can take us not just from the technology, but he can bridge us to extended consciousness and the metaphysical spiritual aspect of this. It’s a deep dive so I have a lot of clips that I want to play for you to try and motivate you to hang in there just like I had to. Yeah, it is but I got Michael Scott this little bit. Explain it to me, like I’m five years old. Dr. Doug Matzke: [00:01:35] That’s the part that people can’t understand about entanglement is that you can’t have entanglement unless you have four dimensions. But every E bit has its own four dimensions, private dimensions, because otherwise they’d interact. So that means that there’s a gazillion dimensions out there. And we can show that with Shor’s algorithm, in that the number of dimensions that you have in quantum computing is two to the power of Q where Q is the number of cubits and if you have two to the 300 cubits you have 300 cubits which would allow you to break, using shor algorithm, every encryption in any internet in the world. It’s just like gravity works independent of whether you believe in it or not, right, and most people don’t realize that relativity is also doing its thing independent whether you believe it or not. But guess what, if you didn’t believe in it, none of our GPS would work. All the satellites and up in space, have to synchronize their clocks with respect to relativity, or none of our GPS would work. It’s proto physics, It’s not metaphysics, It’s proto physics, It’s, Imagine if the quantum states, quantum stuff was marked as black magic and nobody did anything about it. Our society right now would be, no had no lasers, no computers, no transistors, nothing. No, nothing. Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:53] I love it but Doug, this is where we part ways, who the fuck thinks Google is interested in helping fucking society. What evidence, no I’m dead fucking serious. Welcome to Skeptiko where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers and their critics. I’m your host, Alex Tsakiris and today we’re joined by Dr. Doug Matzke and he’s here to talk about his new book, Deep Reality, why source science, and in a minute Doug will tell us what that means, may be the key to understanding human potential. It’s a book that he co authored with the very well known and highly regarded Stanford scientist, Dr. William Tiller. You know,
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Curt Jaimungal, examines the hijacking of progressive discourse. Click here for Curt Jaimungal’s YouTube Channel Click here for Curt’s film: betterleftunsaidfilm.com Click here for Forum Discussion Skeptiko-486-Curt-Jaimungal Alex Tsakiris: [00:00:00] Welcome to Skeptiko, where we explore controversial science and spirituality with leading researchers, thinkers, and their critics. I’m your host Alex Tsakiris and today we welcome Curt Jaimungal to Skeptiko. Curt is a very accomplished filmmaker and actor based in Toronto. You know, I initially contacted Curt because I was super impressed with his YouTube channel, which I’m actually showing up on the screen here and some of his, just excellent interviews on consciousness, atheism, free-will and all the interesting stuff we love to talk about on Skeptiko, highlighting one that he did with Donald Hoffman, with over 143,000 views. Fantastic. We all know Don Hoffman was one of my favorite guests to have on and is featured in the book that I have. So since my initial contact with Curt, he has released this pretty amazing movie, just extremely well done movie called Better Left Unsaid. So I thought what we do is kind of shift the focus a little bit over to this movie and I’m showing his IMDB page, which is quite impressive as well. But we’ll just kind of talk about a bunch of different things. I’m going to of course, give him the usual Skeptiko inquiry to perpetuate doubt, treatment. He won’t escape that but he’s a really smart guy, so I know he can take it. Curt, welcome to Skeptiko and thanks so much for joining me. Curt Jaimungal: [00:01:42] Thank you so much man, I appreciate it. By the way, I read your book, read it last night. It was way, it was far better than I expected not that, not that I didn’t expect it to be. Alex Tsakiri: [00:01:52] Wait a minute, what kind of backhanded compliment is that? Curt Jaimungal: [00:01:56] I was a, I was impressed and especially the, let’s say the first 66, the first two thirds. It’s almost exactly in line with what I’m interested in anyway. Alex Tsakiris: [00:02:09] Yeah, I think there’s a great intersection there. But I think we can help people maybe jump into this even better. If we share a trailer from the new film, This is Better Left Unsaid and I’m going to play it and we’ll just kind of listen and then we’ll ask Curt to comment on it and tell us in his own words, what the movie is about. Audio Clip: [00:02:35] Our four little children will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. The world is upside down. I thought the whole idea was to not judge people by their skin color. That’s what racism used to mean. I can no longer teach contemporary moral problems , anything that involves issues of race and gender seems to be a minefield. Racism has been redefined, Sexism has been redefined. This is all through the culture. And if we can’t talk, what’s left? I’m not a Nazi. Why are we not taught the historical consequences of those who viewed the world through optics of groups that have power and groups t...
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