In this episode, we talk about how to change the approach to chronic pain with Rachel Trobman, the CEO of Upside Health, a digital health company reimagining pain care with a mobile pain management platform. We discuss how patients can identify, manage and change how they think about and measure pain.  Rachel also shares how patients can empower themselves by learning more about their options and why women should advocate more for their overall health.  Episode Highlights:  

Some challenges of chronic pain care  10:01 Changing how pain is measured & treated   16:38 Being your best advocate  You can connect with Rachel at and learn more about Upside Health at

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Welcome to the Women of Influence podcast, hosted by Aliza Freud and presented by SheSpeaks. Each episode features candid conversations with creators, CMOs, and media leaders shaping today’s marketing landscape, exploring how storytelling, trust, and paid media work together to move consumers from discovery to purchase. Built for marketers, brands, and creators, the show delivers practical insight into the strategies shaping the next era of advertising.