Serious Trouble
Serious Trouble
Josh Barro and Ken White
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Can AI eliminate Barro?
Great podcast - except when Barro opens his idiot mouth. Wondering if someone can use use AI (yes, it would be worth ruining the world) to cut Barro’s voice and just run Ken’s insightful and amusing comments. Barro adds nothing and frequently gets in the way. Interrupts unnecessarily and “clarifies” just to hear his own voice.
Dick Dietz
reiterating - this show has ONE good commenter
i appreciate ken’s analysis, but **josh is a terrible moderator/host**, and it’s unfortunate because he leads the discussions. if ken found another partner, likely 5 stars, but josh is an albatross around his neck. it’s maddening. ken, please fly be free of this less than mediocre man. he is a millstone holding you down.
mrskrabapple
I have come to accept that this is my favorite podcast
In the 50+ years of my life, there has been little to no indication that I’ve ever had an interest in legal affairs, legal theory or in-the-weeds legal analysis. Yet somehow, of the 300+ podcasts I have subscribed to in the last 15 years, this is the one I rearrange my day around when a new episode drops. It’s a truth I have to come to terms with, that the way breaking news and current affairs appear through a legal lens is somehow more interesting to me, and that the dynamic between Josh and Ken is the perfect combination of funny and compelling. This is my favorite podcast. I have listened to every second of every episode just as I did “All the Presidents Lawyers” before it.
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wayz
Informative and entertaining
I started listening to this one when Ken stopped posting on Popehat. Very entertaining and interesting show. I wish there was something any of us could do about the problems they discuss on the show though
supra supremacy
Boycott Barro
The PopeHat, Ken White, is superb. Listen to The PopeHat and you will learn about the law and the legal system. Josh Barro is pundit manure. Barrow is the Megan McArdle of John P Normansons. Do not buy a subscription. Refuse to give Barro a ruble. Or a shekel. Never reward Barro. Were it not for his parents, that guy would be moving boxes at an Amazon warehouse.
Peter Guillam
rip off
I paid $60 for a year of this podcast, duly added it to my Apple podcasts feed, and ONLY get the free episodes/ parts of episodes. I’ve wasted a lot of time (and patience!) trying to fix this. I can’t fix it and can’t find out who can. But the more I listen the more I think Ken White isn’t qualified to speak to many of the topics he attempts to address, and Josh Barro should either go to law school or stop playing lawyer. So maybe I just quit it altogether. And yes, I’m a lawyer.
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MKNZ2222
Informative and Fun
Ken White and Josh Barro have created a space where common sense discussion of law fare exists.
CMPstan
42:50
Sarah quote, “Donald Trump could have come in in 2017 and fixed entitlements, and maybe immigration.” This show is a sad joke.
Timpgav
Halfway there
It’s great to hear from Ken and get his perspective on important legal issues! Josh, however, is insufferable and adds nothing of substance.
TylerB1978
Entertaining and factual legal news
I really enjoy this podcast.
Lawyer in Salt Lake City
Fire pod
Love the pod feel so much smarter that Mr. White really knows what he’s talking about
Anonymous Apricot
Dig it
Good stuff
Ddort
yikes.
It’s all fun and games until you check the hosts’ socials and discover that yes, all free speech absolutists are the same.
Eli1878
Excellent content that will change how you see legal issues across the spectrum
This podcast is fantastic. Legal issues related to politics is a bit niche, but if you follow politics enough to listen to The Daily, you will enjoy this content and be able to easily follow it. The hosts do a great job of providing ample context for you to understand the legal commentary. It provides an interesting and balanced exploration of issues from all angles. For new listeners, there are some small inside jokes (RICO hotline, Senate Twink Award for Belatedly Good Judgement) that might through you off during a first listen, but you will catch on quick and love the reoccurrence of these jokes as you get acquainted. Please give it a listen. You won’t regret it.
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Liasum
Smart, informative + even entertaining!
Thank you, Josh + Ken, for helping to unravel the tangled litigation efforts so many of our respectable and not so respectable politicians, public officials, underpaid Aides, and various celebs generate— even revel in, at times. With the re-election of Trump, your podcast, in particular, is going to serve as a beacon of clarity and sensibility. Thank you!
Definitely Nicole
Ken is generally excellent, but Josh?
Not so much. He has a habit of repeating MSM and right wing press assumptions and narratives. Ken will often gently push back or reorient the conversation, but not every time. Take, for example, Josh’s continual use of the phrase “Hunter’s laptop”. It takes only a few minutes of reading or listening elsewhere (Emptywheel, Mueller She Wrote, more) to realize that there is no such thing as a singular “laptop”, nor was one “abandoned” in the manner which Josh repeats here. There are more examples of Josh’s glosses than this, but this latest really stuck in my craw for its sheer laziness.
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pdxjk
Stellar legal analysis
Unpredictable uploads but the wait is surely worth it. 10/10
JWunderBread
Worth buying the paid one
Always my favorite
Ander517
Why pay for sub-par content
Do you remember trialware software where it was short period of time to evaluate if this software product was any good and then when you paid for a yearly subscription and then you found out that you can get elsewhere superior product over for free that’s what the podcast is.
Jason Ruden
Love! But I’m a bit resentful…
I used to listen to your old post cast and playing pretend lawyer with you. I didn’t miss an episode of All the Presidents Lawyers but I didn’t know that you moved! I’m mad I miss two years of the discussion!!!! But I still love the show.
SanPedroScoop
Love it
I loved Make No Law and this is even better. I recommend it to all my friends who are serious about the news.
lj@ck
Totally original and entertaining
There’s no one else like these guys - intellectual, witty, very much on top of legal developments, prescient - though only out once a week. I learn things here that the pundits miss or leave out.
MausNYC
Are they hard up for money?
I don’t need ten minutes of Josh Barrow begging for money. It’s weird. Lots of podcasts have figured out how to monetize. Some with ads. Some with subscriptions. None of them take this route of annoying and shaming listeners. Respect your audience. This tells me you don’t.
snowihte16
Not Good
A ten minute episode that cuts out literally midsentence asking for money to hear the rest? Artists should be compensated, but this is not how that works. Use your favorite search engine to look for "how to monetize podcasts" and how they are doing it here does not appear on the list. Catch up or fall behind.
A_F_A_S
Lawsplaining for lay people
“Serious Trouble” is an irreverent half-hour of lawsplaining for lay people who follow the news. It covers an array of prominent civil and criminal cases, explaining what’s going on, if indeed the defendant is in serious trouble, and how media coverage gets things right and wrong.
Knute’s grandson
Disappointing
8 minutes of content every two weeks and a whole lot of begging for $60 a year to listen to … responses to listener questions. It used to be a good show and now it’s just a nonstop ad for themselves.
amcatanzaro
Just an ad
It’s almost like Josh thinks people don’t subscribe to other podcasts to see how monetizing them actually works. Instead of cutting a full “free” episode and having “paid” content in a separate episode, he will literally mid sentence cut the episode short and tell you if you want to hear the rest you have to pay. Sad because Ken is brilliant and deserves better.
Left Turn At ABQ
My favorite podcast
Admittedly, Serious Trouble is the podcast I look forward to the most and am most visibly happy about when I see a new episode up. Have enjoyed Josh’s humor, insight, and the way he leads conversation for many many years and Ken is so incredibly funny and smart as well. Both have a keen ability to explain complicated legal stuff in a way that I understand, actually retain, and really love listening to. Thank you guys for such a quality podcast!!!
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Mr.Krobs
Background fuzz
Great pod, but the background feedback or fuzzy noise drives me nuts! Would be awesome if you could fix that. Thank you!
radiorentalFTW
False Advertising
When this launched, they claimed every other episode would be free. Each free episode is hacked down to lure you into paying. Either make it paid or don’t. No issue with people making a living, but it comes off as desperate.
mKeEsq
Fabulous
Thank you for your pod
121664
BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT SUBSCRIBING
I tried to become a paid subscriber for this and accidentally signed up to pay for Very Serious with Josh Barro. I deleted my $60 year subscription right away but they are not refunding my money, even though I would subscribe to Serious Trouble. Substack just says it's up to Josh Barro to decide whether he will refund my money and he doesn't answer my emails. Kind of soured me on the whole experience.
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RaymondVV
Ken and Josh Reunited…for a price
Love the show but dislike paid content. I guess it’s the new way of podcasting…
Solo_Reviewer11
Good content, annoying model
I enjoy the content and insight, but I can’t afford to subscribe to every podcast, and this one has really made mincemeat out of its free tier to the extent that it’s not really worth following. I don’t begrudge people needing to make a buck, but this is a Patreon feed in disguise at this point, and ATPL fans who can’t pay up are likely to be disappointed by the sporadic, cut down drops.
Improbability_42
Not worth it without a paid subscription
As with ATPL, Josh and Ken cover interesting topics in a thoughtful manner. If you’re not interested in paying for access to the show, though, there really isn’t much to the “free” content that would make it worth adding to your podcast library. I understood the free version of the podcast would be full episodes, released at a less frequent cadence than the paid, but they seemed to have moved to free “teaser” episodes that are continued and expanded in the paid version.
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21883
Not worth the time
I loved Ken and Josh on “All the Presidents Lawyers” and I loved Ken’s writing when he ran Popehat. But this podcast is nothing more than a sample of their paid website. The only content and information you will get here is them babbling about how informative the stuff they hide behind their paywall is. I’m guessing it won’t be long before they move to Spotify.
KenZmn
glad to have them back
I listenened to all of All The Presidents' Lawyers and am so glad the two of them are back at it in this new show. Great chemistry and insightful commentary on the political landscape
Metalupis
A rare gem
Hard-to-find grownup legal analysis in a tasty candy coated shell of dry humor. No wishcasting or partisan hacks here.
atkozie
Whoa-oh-oh it’s magic!
Mssrs. K. White and J. Barro create, with the indomitable Ms. S. Fay, a sparkling conversation such as one might find in the salons of Beau Monde Paris, or the cheesesteak stands of South Philly. A delight!
DonJM
Not Enough Cat And Abstention Content
We expected more abstention and cat content given that Ken White is a cohost.
Ryantk_6
Serious question tho
Is Michael Avenatti a good lawyer? 🙂
BreakfastToys
2022 rulez
At least in this dimension
philrenato
Mezzo mezzo
Ken White used to be funny, but the last few years have ruined his temper and insight.
DrPenguinPhD
Reunited! And it feels so good!
Im so happy they are back together!
Kidicon
The Best Team is back!!!
Yay!!!! These guys together are—-the best! Thanks for coming back guys. Ken W is a really funny guy. Welcome back guys! I’m your biggest fan. Barb in Austin
BK in ATX
Yay! Josh and Ken are back!
I missed one of my favorite podcasts! Glad, they are back!
BunisellaWrites
Awesome!
So glad to have Josh and Ken back offering commentary on the week’s events!
Dalton642
Thank you!
I am here for the analysis and humor, always watching for potential RICO. Thank you for coming back!
K9KrazyLKL
They’re back!
I’m so glad to have Ken White and Josh Barro back together! I’ve missed their insights, commentary and humor - and right off the bat, they don’t disappoint.
LJ12345668
My faves are back!!!
So excited to listen to you guys again 🥳
MegRoseOh
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