Tim and Joel continue last week's conversation about systemic games. We look at the medieval sandbox game Crusader Kings 3, and Tim goes into his playthrough of Nantucket. We also look at games that come close to being systemic, employing complex systems, but end up relying on authored narratives.

Games mentioned:

• Crusader Kings 3
• Civilization 6
• Nantucket
• Disco Elysium
• Total War
• Sim City
• Hardspace Shipbreaker
• Battle Brothers
• Per Aspera
• Red Dead Redemption 2
• The Witcher 3
• Zelda