Episode 05: In 2015, award-winning New York Times journalist John Leland set out to meet members of America’s fastest-growing age group – adults over the age of 85. He anticipated learning of the challenges of growing old, of isolation and decline of health. What he discovered was the opposite, revealing that the later stages of life can be, in actuality, quite the opposite. 

In this episode, Leland shares some surprising insights gleaned from conversations with the six octogenarians he followed for his book, a few hilarious anecdotes from 87-year-old Fred, and, the real secret to enduring happiness.

• Jonas Mekas
• New York Times articles by John Leland
• “Happiness is a Choice you Make”  By John Leland