Seeing Death Clearly
Seeing Death Clearly
Jill McClennen
Death and Grief in the Black Community with Brion McMillan
43 minutes Posted Feb 20, 2023 at 6:00 am.
Finding religion that fits each of us
Death of Brion’s grandfather, it was a major loss and grief at 8
Death of friend to gun violence
Putting things into the world that live on after us
Death makes you realize time is short
It is easier for most people to access drugs than mental health support
Dealing with grief as an adult
We don’t teach kids how to grieve
Brion asks Jill how she felt out their Chef dying
Brion’s experience losing Chef left him feeling cheated
How the death of Chef Jon helped Jill realize what was important in her life
Death is there to teach you a lesson
Death is preordained in the Muslim religion
What happens when you die in the Muslim religion
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In today’s episode, I talk with my friend Brion about his experiences growing up as a Black man in America.  


The experiences he shares do not represent how all Black men grow up in the United States, but it is his experience growing up in Trenton NJ.


It started with the death of his grandfather when he was 8 years old, and not understanding what he was feeling and how to process the grief.


Brion is a follower of Islam and he shares with us the beliefs that he has about death and dying according to his faith.


I share some of what I have observed about death and grief in the black community from my experiences with my friends, coworkers, and students.  


This is by no means an expert opinion on the matter, only two friends having a conversation about our experiences.


As with all of my episodes, the conversation will challenge your thoughts and beliefs about death, dying, grief, and living life.  Please listen with an open mind.


A quick warning that we do talk about gun violence and suicide in this episode, there are no graphic details and you can look to the time stamps if you would like to skip those parts of our conversation.   


Brion shares about gun violence in his community including the death of two of his friends.


Together we share our experience around the death of my coworker and his teacher Chef Jonathan. Both of us felt his loss deeply but in different ways. 


I have also added a full transcript of this conversation if you want to read it after listening.  



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