<p>It's finally here!</p><p>We believe in the value of getting right into it, and that people are more than their bios - so we won't be doing intros for now.</p>

World's Fittest Man Talks Serenity, Addiction, Failure, Community, and Greatness.

Welcome to Second Order Change, where we explore the irreversible process of pursuing your dreams. Join us as we dive into the inspiring stories of individuals who have faced daunting challenges and overcame them to pursue their passions.

Through candid interviews, our guests share their personal journeys, discussing the pivotal moments that led them to pursue their dreams and the obstacles they faced along the way. We delve into the process of transformation, exploring the deep changes that occur when we challenge ourselves to pursue something we truly care about.

Whether you're an athlete, artist, entrepreneur, or simply someone who's looking to make a change in your life, Second Order Change offers insights and inspiration to help you navigate the ups and downs of the journey. Join us each week as we explore the stories of those Challengers who have dared to dream big and make their dreams a reality.