John Caserta is a designer and educator based in Providence, Rhode Island. He is an Associate Professor and former Department Head of the Graphic Design Department at The Rhode Island School of Design and founder of The Design Office, a work and project space for independent designers in downtown Providence. In this episode, John and I talk about the changes RISD's made in their undergraduate graphic design program, critical making, and his background in journalism and design. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm.