What responsibility do camp leaders have in shaping workplace culture, and what happens when that culture turns toxic? In this episode of SCamp Life: The Other Side, Kelie and Shauna sit down with Katie Grenci to explore the realities of toxic leadership in camp settings. Katie reflects on her experience as a manager, the warning signs she encountered, and the lasting impact on both staff and campers. This episode doesn’t just tell a story; it challenges leaders to reflect, do better, and actively create environments where people can thrive.Katie’s Contact: Katie Grenci

What happens when two podcast hosts who’ve only known each other virtually finally meet in real life? In this episode, Kelie and Shauna take you to the Women in Camp Summit, where they met in person for the first time. They swap stories, reflect on standout sessions, and talk about why spaces created by women in camp for women in camp are so powerful. If you love professional development, camp people, and a little behind-the-scenes reflection, this one’s for you.

Trigger Warnings: Child death, drowning, religious trauma.This episode investigates the deadly overnight flood at Camp Mystic in Kerr County, Texas. We break down the events leading up to the tragedy, the emergency failures that left campers vulnerable, and the long-standing flood-warning and safety gaps that contributed to the loss of life. Drawing on verified reporting, survivor accounts, and public records, we examine what went wrong — and what must change to protect young people in the future.Timeline Link

Kelie and Shauna are back behind the mic for a brand-new season of SCampLife: The Other Side! In this opening episode, the duo catch up after a whirlwind summer—swapping stories, sharing lessons learned, and laughing through the highs (and the chaos) of camp life. Plus, Kelie drops a big announcement you won’t want to miss!

Kelie is back from the American Camp Association Tri-State Conference, and she’s bringing all the energy (and a few unexpected side quests) to this episode! Join Kelie and Shauna as they dive into Kelie’s favorite sessions, biggest takeaways, and ideas that camp professionals won’t want to miss. Of course, it wouldn’t be The Other Side without a few classic “Squirrel!” moments—because when camp people talk, things are bound to get a little off-trail.

Hosts Kelie and Shauna break down how executive orders, local laws, and policy changes could impact the camp industry. From staffing regulations to funding shifts, they explore what camp professionals need to know—without the legal jargon. But let’s be clear: they’re not lawyers, and this isn’t legal advice—just two camp pros with microphones trying to make sense of the rules that shape our summers.LINKSExecutive OrdersAfter School and Summer Learning ProgramsRemoval of DEI Language and ProgrammingJackson Walker Legal Summary of Immigration Related Executive OrdersMayer Brown Legal Summary for Enhanced Screening and VettingWant to add to our conversation?  Have a question you want us to discuss?Email Us: [email protected]