We hear from Ken Wilson (14:10), author of "A Letter to My Congregation." He shares about the definition of third way and the politics of inclusion.

We hear from Nick Warnes (15:20), Executive Director of Cyclical Churches (www.cyclicalchurches.com), as he describes church planting in a way you might not've heard before. Also, Justin asks James and Rebecca why they're still in Christian ministry.

This is the first in a series of discussions about the future of the church. James, Justin, & Rebecca talk about what they're reading, where the church is headed (13:20), and how much sexism (35:18) still stands in the way of women.

We hear from Kevin Haah, the lead pastor of New City Church, a diverse church in downtown Los Angeles. We discuss their journey towards inclusivity (this conversation begins at the 18:20 mark). Also, James and Justin discuss stereotyping in comedy.

Change can be hard on individuals and communities. We hear about some of the challenges experienced by New Heart Community Church after they became fully inclusive in 2014.

Rachel Held Evans, brilliant author and wonderful person, died suddenly on May 4, 2019. She served as an inspiration to us and countless others, and we remember her in this episode. We also discuss the latest developments in the Southern Baptist Convention with regards to women in leadership and sexual abuse.

Sanctuary Community Church became fully inclusive and watched their congregation grow and flourish. This is their story.

Evergreen Baptist Church of Los Angeles began a group for LGBTQ+ Christians several years ago. Ken Fong and Marian Sunabe tell the story of "The Open Door."

We hear from a gay couple whose church is in the process of discussing LGBTQ inclusivity.