We welcomed back Ron Deal to the podcast to discuss an important topic that seems to be on everyone's mind (at least in the RT world) -- and that is the paradigm shifting move from emotional coregulation to self-regulation. And Ron helped us dive deep into the topic.

If you have never met Ron before, he is the President of Smart Stepfamlies and Senior Director of Family Life Blended. We also had him on this podcast way back in Episode 7. Oh, and lest we forget -- Co-Author of The Mindful Marriage along with his wife Nan, and Terry and Sharon Hargrave.

We covered a lot of ground in this conversation about coregulation and self-regulation, but some of the themes that emerged were:

• Significant paradigm shift of RT towards self-regulation vs coregulation
• AI as the new coregulator
• The virtue of self-control as critical to emotional self-regulation
• Emotional self-regulation as practice of discipleship
• Ron's scuba diving metaphor for self-regulation vs coregulation
• and much more

(see our RT Dialogue Substack for the handout mentioned in episode}

Mentioned in the Episode

Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer

Self-Regulation and Self-Control by Roy Baumeister

The Mindful Marriage by Ron and Nan Deal

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius