
Kevin Hu and Pastor William Mack talk pastoral burnout: mental and physical health, sabbatical, and setting real boundaries. Backed by a recent Barna study, they get honest about what actually helps versus what pastors are usually offered instead. A real, unscripted conversation for anyone in ministry trying to figure out how to rest without guilt. Article referenced: Barna study
Jul 27
32 min

Summer can feel like anything but restful for pastors juggling family calendars, church schedules, and the weight of caring for others. In this short reflection, Pastor Mack invites us to pause and consider whether the Holy Spirit is calling us to actually rest this season, not just talk about it. Mack reads a letter he wrote to pastors everywhere, a reminder that you are loved simply because you are, not because of what you produce or how well you preach. He closes with a prayer from Ted Loder's collection of poems, a fitting invitation to be gathered by God in the middle of exhaustion. If you've been running on empty and calling it faithfulness, this one is for you.
Jul 15
7 min

Money is one of the last taboo topics in the church, and pastors often feel it most. This week Kevin sits down with Carlton Moore of Kingdom Wealth Building, a ministry that helps believers steward their finances free of charge. Carlton shares his own path from working in finance and at Google to leaving the workforce in his early thirties, and the years it took before Kingdom Wealth Building took shape. Kevin and Carlton talk honestly about the shame pastors carry around money along with the temptation to underpay and undervalue themselves in ministry. Along the way, Carlton offers a simple first step anyone can take this week, and a challenge to bring a gospel-shaped posture to money instead of a scarcity one. If you've ever felt guilty for thinking about your own finances while serving others, this episode might be an encouragement to you!
Jul 13
29 min

For many pastors, the church isn't just where they worship, it's where they lead, care for others, and carry enormous responsibility. But what happens when that role ends and the pastor becomes a congregant again? In this episode, Kevin Hu and Pastor William Mack explore the honest journey of stepping away from pastoral leadership, wrestling with identity and belonging, and finding a way back to Christian community. rootedpastors.org
Mar 30
49 min

In this conversation, Kevin Hu and Pastor William Mack explore the themes of deconstruction and reconstruction in faith, emphasizing the importance of community and relationship in navigating spiritual struggles. They discuss the challenges of isolation, the dual realities of faith, and the necessity of wrestling with God during difficult times. The conversation highlights the loneliness epidemic, particularly among men, and encourages listeners to seek connection and support in their spiritual journeys. rootedpastors.org
Nov 5, 2025
35 min

We are so grateful for local church pastors and all clergy for the way they serve and lead in their respective communities. This week, Pastor William Mack shares some words of encouragement for everyone serving in these capacities. rootedpastors.org
Oct 1, 2025
2 min

In this episode Pastor William Mack guides listeners through the profound impact of seasonal transitions on pastoral leadership and ministry. Discover how changes in nature mirror the shifts in church life and community dynamics. This insightful presentation delves into the challenges and opportunities that each season brings, offering practical advice for pastors to adapt and thrive. Whether you're navigating the vibrant energy of spring or the reflective quiet of winter, this episode provides valuable insights to help you lead with grace and resilience through every season. rootedpastors.org
Sep 3, 2025
5 min

In this conversation, Kevin Hu and Kevin Butcher explore the concept of attunement, its significance in relationships, and how it can be cultivated within communities, particularly in church settings. They discuss the neuroscience behind attunement, the challenges of creating spaces where individuals feel seen and valued, and the steps one can take to experience and give attunement to others. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of vulnerability, connection, and the transformative power of love in fostering attunement. rootedpastors.org
Aug 13, 2025
41 min

We still have space for 2 more couples for our upcoming marriage retreat at Glen Eyrie in Colorado Springs. August 4-6. If you or someone you know may be interested, visit our website at rootedpastors.org, Events and then Face to Face to learn more. Scholarships are also available.
Jul 2, 2025
1 min

In this episode, Pastor Kevin Butcher and Kevin Hu talk about lament, healing and the importance of never journeying alone. They also talk about some of their highlights from the first ABIDE25 retreat of the year. rootedpastors.org
Jun 9, 2025
38 min
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