As part of our partnership with Zora for the upcoming Rhizome benefit on May 31, 2022, we chat with Zora founder Jacob Horne about hyperstructures, platform capitalism, and cryptocommunism. Aria and Michael learn about the differences among standards, protocols, and platforms, and the possibilities and problems of fully on-chain protocols.  Theme music by Kev Bewersdorf. Recorded at Brooklyn Podcasting Studio. Scoring and mixing by Ultraviolet Audio.

Following the event “After the End of History” (see episode 3), which brought together four Gen Z leftist meme practitioners for a conversation with artist Joshua Citarella about their visions of the next 25 years, Michael and Aria gathered for a recap with Josh and a phone call with one of the panelists.

Ceci Moss joins Aria Dean in conversation at Rhizome HQ to discuss her new “recent art history” book exploring postinternet art. Buy your copy today at https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/expanded-internet-art-9781501347771/